Comments on: Dear NoDebtMortgage.com: Please Stop Stealing my Content http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/dear-nodebtmortgagecom-please-stop-stealing-my-content/953 Phoenix Real Estate -- Anything and everything about it. Plus random musings... Now with Phoenix area MLS Listings Search! Sat, 06 Sep 2008 07:19:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Dallas Real Estate Broker http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/dear-nodebtmortgagecom-please-stop-stealing-my-content/953#comment-33940 Dallas Real Estate Broker Fri, 20 Jun 2008 20:08:57 +0000 http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/dear-nodebtmortgagecom-please-stop-stealing-my-content/953#comment-33940 Jay, nothing worse than someone taking your work and duplicating over the net. This is equal to grand theft auto in my book, which by the way happended to me last weekend. Tahoe was stole while sitting in a Starbucks parking lot in the middle of the afternoon. I came across this site a couple days ago, you might check out if you have some problems. cybertriallawyer.com Kenneth Cox - Dallas Broker Jay, nothing worse than someone taking your work and duplicating over the net. This is equal to grand theft auto in my book, which by the way happended to me last weekend. Tahoe was stole while sitting in a Starbucks parking lot in the middle of the afternoon. I came across this site a couple days ago, you might check out if you have some problems.

cybertriallawyer.com

Kenneth Cox - Dallas Broker

]]> By: Evil Fruit Lord http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/dear-nodebtmortgagecom-please-stop-stealing-my-content/953#comment-33929 Evil Fruit Lord Fri, 20 Jun 2008 09:07:47 +0000 http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/dear-nodebtmortgagecom-please-stop-stealing-my-content/953#comment-33929 I believe the same guy is ripping off my entire blog wholesale on another site. Let me know if you manage to make anything work. I've sent him a cease and desist letter which no doubt has simply disappeared into the void. I'm fairly sure the service provider in my case is ThePlanet.com (Strong Cord has other sites hosted there, and when in I ping the website address, the IP address it returns is there, according to whois.domaintools.com). Next step is DMCA requests to ThePlanet and Google, who I'm hoping will both pull his AdSense account and delist his site (and hopefully all his other sites, but that's just wishful thinking, I'm sure). I believe the same guy is ripping off my entire blog wholesale on another site. Let me know if you manage to make anything work. I’ve sent him a cease and desist letter which no doubt has simply disappeared into the void. I’m fairly sure the service provider in my case is ThePlanet.com (Strong Cord has other sites hosted there, and when in I ping the website address, the IP address it returns is there, according to whois.domaintools.com).

Next step is DMCA requests to ThePlanet and Google, who I’m hoping will both pull his AdSense account and delist his site (and hopefully all his other sites, but that’s just wishful thinking, I’m sure).

]]> By: Karen Rice http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/dear-nodebtmortgagecom-please-stop-stealing-my-content/953#comment-31850 Karen Rice Wed, 14 May 2008 12:53:45 +0000 http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/dear-nodebtmortgagecom-please-stop-stealing-my-content/953#comment-31850 Err, forgive that half coherent comment - sheesh. I'm only on coffee #2, so I should wait until I'm halfway done with cup #3 before commenting.. Err, forgive that half coherent comment - sheesh. I’m only on coffee #2, so I should wait until I’m halfway done with cup #3 before commenting..

]]> By: Karen Rice http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/dear-nodebtmortgagecom-please-stop-stealing-my-content/953#comment-31849 Karen Rice Wed, 14 May 2008 12:52:13 +0000 http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/dear-nodebtmortgagecom-please-stop-stealing-my-content/953#comment-31849 Can I say I agree with Trace? Unless they're saying they wrote the content or removing your original links then I have no problem. So what if they want to earn a few bucks on Adsense? I have had one of my blogs get a lot of readers - funny that, because it was a blog about one of the least popular communities in the area, because it's not so "pretty" and doesn't have a slew of amenities. however, someone recently contacted me about the community. This blog article was "pinged?" (I guess?) by someone who posted it on their site...full credit and links to me... I have no doubt that a lot of my traffic (Okay, so it's only 10 visitors but that's a lot to ME..LOL). I have to wonder, did the person who contacted me about the community stumble upon my blog myself, or upon this splogger and then to my blog? I don't know. I suppose we can worry about these sploggers "competing with us" for our own content, but as long as the splogger isn't another real estate agent with their contact info all over the place, I don't worry about it too much. Rambly, arent I? Can I say I agree with Trace? Unless they’re saying they wrote the content or removing your original links then I have no problem. So what if they want to earn a few bucks on Adsense?

I have had one of my blogs get a lot of readers - funny that, because it was a blog about one of the least popular communities in the area, because it’s not so “pretty” and doesn’t have a slew of amenities. however, someone recently contacted me about the community.

This blog article was “pinged?” (I guess?) by someone who posted it on their site…full credit and links to me… I have no doubt that a lot of my traffic (Okay, so it’s only 10 visitors but that’s a lot to ME..LOL).

I have to wonder, did the person who contacted me about the community stumble upon my blog myself, or upon this splogger and then to my blog?

I don’t know.

I suppose we can worry about these sploggers “competing with us” for our own content, but as long as the splogger isn’t another real estate agent with their contact info all over the place, I don’t worry about it too much.

Rambly, arent I?

]]> By: Jay - The Phoenix Real Estate Guy http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/dear-nodebtmortgagecom-please-stop-stealing-my-content/953#comment-31831 Jay - The Phoenix Real Estate Guy Wed, 14 May 2008 00:34:35 +0000 http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/dear-nodebtmortgagecom-please-stop-stealing-my-content/953#comment-31831 @Charles (LVGuy) - it happens ALL the time. Daily really. Sometimes I just need to vent so I pick on the latest. @Trace / @Ken - Given that Google indexes posts here within minutes after they are written, and given the incredible intelligence level of those inside the Googleplex, I'm not worried about them figuring out the origin. Heck, they probably know what I'm going to write before I do. ;) @Trace - Your focus on the positive is admirable! Nice site BTW!! Incidentally, Mr/Ms T. Schilling has yet to respond to my email. Shocking! @Charles (LVGuy) - it happens ALL the time. Daily really. Sometimes I just need to vent so I pick on the latest.

@Trace / @Ken - Given that Google indexes posts here within minutes after they are written, and given the incredible intelligence level of those inside the Googleplex, I’m not worried about them figuring out the origin. Heck, they probably know what I’m going to write before I do. ;)

@Trace - Your focus on the positive is admirable! Nice site BTW!!

Incidentally, Mr/Ms T. Schilling has yet to respond to my email. Shocking!

]]> By: Las Vegas High Rise Guy http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/dear-nodebtmortgagecom-please-stop-stealing-my-content/953#comment-31813 Las Vegas High Rise Guy Tue, 13 May 2008 20:03:58 +0000 http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/dear-nodebtmortgagecom-please-stop-stealing-my-content/953#comment-31813 I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often to you Jay. I've kept track of all of the sites that have stolen my content over the years, the file is getting pretty full. Usually it was a "hired webmaster" responsible but not always. I’m surprised it doesn’t happen more often to you Jay. I’ve kept track of all of the sites that have stolen my content over the years, the file is getting pretty full. Usually it was a “hired webmaster” responsible but not always.

]]> By: Trace http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/dear-nodebtmortgagecom-please-stop-stealing-my-content/953#comment-31810 Trace Tue, 13 May 2008 16:17:55 +0000 http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/dear-nodebtmortgagecom-please-stop-stealing-my-content/953#comment-31810 Jay: well you are right the links are likely worth close to nothing.... was trying to use a bit of sleight of hand to focus on the positive. :) Ken: I haven't heard of recent issues with google having issues determining origin of content, but if there have been issues as of late, that is obviously a big deal. That's why I mentioned earlier to make sure you're pinging correctly.... my experience is that google has this sorted out and so if guys wanna scrape....I say let them, the truth is I don't have a choice, I can't humanly keep up with scrapers anyways.... there aren't enough hours in the day... I can barely keep up with the guys that steal my entire 50 page websites at ipagio.com .... and these aren't kids, these are companies with 50 plus employees that just want to save a thousand dollars or two. Jay: well you are right the links are likely worth close to nothing…. was trying to use a bit of sleight of hand to focus on the positive. :)

Ken: I haven’t heard of recent issues with google having issues determining origin of content, but if there have been issues as of late, that is obviously a big deal. That’s why I mentioned earlier to make sure you’re pinging correctly…. my experience is that google has this sorted out and so if guys wanna scrape….I say let them, the truth is I don’t have a choice, I can’t humanly keep up with scrapers anyways…. there aren’t enough hours in the day… I can barely keep up with the guys that steal my entire 50 page websites at ipagio.com …. and these aren’t kids, these are companies with 50 plus employees that just want to save a thousand dollars or two.

]]> By: Ken in Bartlett http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/dear-nodebtmortgagecom-please-stop-stealing-my-content/953#comment-31789 Ken in Bartlett Tue, 13 May 2008 04:12:23 +0000 http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/dear-nodebtmortgagecom-please-stop-stealing-my-content/953#comment-31789 The duplicate content issue is a real issue. Scrapper sites have caused problems for a number of sites when Google has a stupid attack and can't decide who had the original content. At the last Pubcon there where multiple questions about how to fix issues related to duplicate content issues caused by scrappers stealing content from very established blogs and sites. The duplicate content issue is a real issue. Scrapper sites have caused problems for a number of sites when Google has a stupid attack and can’t decide who had the original content. At the last Pubcon there where multiple questions about how to fix issues related to duplicate content issues caused by scrappers stealing content from very established blogs and sites.

]]> By: Jay - The Phoenix Real Estate Guy http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/dear-nodebtmortgagecom-please-stop-stealing-my-content/953#comment-31781 Jay - The Phoenix Real Estate Guy Mon, 12 May 2008 23:50:34 +0000 http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/dear-nodebtmortgagecom-please-stop-stealing-my-content/953#comment-31781 I hear you Trace. It truly is a hopeless battle. Personally, I wish Google would just shut these sites off of Adsense. They are smart guys, surely they can tell a scraper from a real site? As for the links, I'm not sure links from a PR0 site do any good. Guess it can't hurt, but I question the good it does. Sometimes it's just fun to get them shut down. I certainly don't have the time to mess with them all. But I'll yank the chain of one every now and then. Looks like a double comment snuck in there, so I'm going to delete the first one... I hear you Trace. It truly is a hopeless battle. Personally, I wish Google would just shut these sites off of Adsense. They are smart guys, surely they can tell a scraper from a real site?

As for the links, I’m not sure links from a PR0 site do any good. Guess it can’t hurt, but I question the good it does.

Sometimes it’s just fun to get them shut down. I certainly don’t have the time to mess with them all. But I’ll yank the chain of one every now and then.

Looks like a double comment snuck in there, so I’m going to delete the first one…

]]> By: Trace http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/dear-nodebtmortgagecom-please-stop-stealing-my-content/953#comment-31775 Trace Mon, 12 May 2008 20:30:58 +0000 http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/dear-nodebtmortgagecom-please-stop-stealing-my-content/953#comment-31775 I totally get where you are coming from but keep in mind that the scraper is still including your links when he republishes the content...... so he steals your content but gives you dozens or hundreds of links back..... I will personally take that deal ALL DAY LONG. He adds adsense on his site to make money on your content..... personally.....I say, so what? If he wants to make $6 a year on adsense, more power to him.... As long as your site is pinging google properly when you post new content, he isn't hurting you, just giving your website more reach, links, and coverage..... it's sort of like third world syndication. :) Also, he's going to do it anyways.... so might as well make the best of it and save the frustration...in my experience for everyone you stop there are about 10 more that will pop up... just one perspective which is worth what you paid for it. :) I totally get where you are coming from but keep in mind that the scraper is still including your links when he republishes the content…… so he steals your content but gives you dozens or hundreds of links back….. I will personally take that deal ALL DAY LONG. He adds adsense on his site to make money on your content….. personally…..I say, so what? If he wants to make $6 a year on adsense, more power to him…. As long as your site is pinging google properly when you post new content, he isn’t hurting you, just giving your website more reach, links, and coverage….. it’s sort of like third world syndication. :) Also, he’s going to do it anyways…. so might as well make the best of it and save the frustration…in my experience for everyone you stop there are about 10 more that will pop up… just one perspective which is worth what you paid for it. :)

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