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> <channel><title>Comments on: Gilbert Considering Banning Door Hangers and Fliers</title> <atom:link href="http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/gilbert-considering-banning-door-hangers-and-fliers/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/gilbert-considering-banning-door-hangers-and-fliers/</link> <description>Phoenix real estate &#124; Search Phoenix Homes for sale &#124; Real Estate Blog</description> <lastBuildDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 03:59:27 -0500</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Jon</title><link>http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/gilbert-considering-banning-door-hangers-and-fliers/#comment-42761</link> <dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:44:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/gilbert-considering-banning-door-hangers-and-fliers/577#comment-42761</guid> <description>I think the idea by the council is a bad one.Anything that squeezes business in a bad economy doesn&#039;t seem to be a good thing.      I am one that is of the opinion that regulations such as this stifle and hurt the free market.I certainly agree with the point of view of the homeowners who own their private property and have a legitimate right to determine what goes on within the hallows of their property.I guess the big question is this:How intrusive or disruptive is an advertisement?    What kind of issues for the homeowner is it actually causing?     Are the troubles real or imagined?A point was made above about flyer people who ignore signs such as &quot;no soliciting&quot;, &quot;no flyers&quot;, and &quot;No Trespassing&quot;.I do feel that in situations such as this........owners should probably have some type of recourse.     But, at the same time, I think it&#039;s kind of unfair that we can&#039;t simply toss it in your mailbox.......due to the fact that we are doing the distribution ourselves and saving the 47 cent mail charge or whatever it is now.But, if you do a clean method such as that......you get fined postage for each piece of literature you drop into the mailbox as the &quot;inside of it&quot; is considered &quot;federal property&quot;.Hmmm.*&lt;em&gt;*&lt;em&gt;Jon&#180;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flyerbuddies.com/2008/12/flyer-updates-coming-soon.html&quot;&gt;Flyer Updates coming soon!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the idea by the council is a bad one.</p><p>Anything that squeezes business in a bad economy doesn&#8217;t seem to be a good thing.      I am one that is of the opinion that regulations such as this stifle and hurt the free market.</p><p>I certainly agree with the point of view of the homeowners who own their private property and have a legitimate right to determine what goes on within the hallows of their property.</p><p>I guess the big question is this:</p><p>How intrusive or disruptive is an advertisement?    What kind of issues for the homeowner is it actually causing?     Are the troubles real or imagined?</p><p>A point was made above about flyer people who ignore signs such as &#8220;no soliciting&#8221;, &#8220;no flyers&#8221;, and &#8220;No Trespassing&#8221;.</p><p>I do feel that in situations such as this&#8230;&#8230;..owners should probably have some type of recourse.     But, at the same time, I think it&#8217;s kind of unfair that we can&#8217;t simply toss it in your mailbox&#8230;&#8230;.due to the fact that we are doing the distribution ourselves and saving the 47 cent mail charge or whatever it is now.</p><p>But, if you do a clean method such as that&#8230;&#8230;you get fined postage for each piece of literature you drop into the mailbox as the &#8220;inside of it&#8221; is considered &#8220;federal property&#8221;.</p><p>Hmmm.</p><p>*<em>*</em><em>Jon&#180;s last blog post..<a
href="http://www.flyerbuddies.com/2008/12/flyer-updates-coming-soon.html">Flyer Updates coming soon!</a></em></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: arizona auto insurance</title><link>http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/gilbert-considering-banning-door-hangers-and-fliers/#comment-42035</link> <dc:creator>arizona auto insurance</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 18:00:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/gilbert-considering-banning-door-hangers-and-fliers/577#comment-42035</guid> <description>I&#039;m torn by this one. I don&#039;t want to see us get to the point where we make it so hard for someone to be in business. If you eliminate all marketing these folks will either not make it or be forced to spend money in other ways that will only raise the cost of their product, which hurts consumers.The one company that does irritate me is the one who puts their card and a &quot;rock&quot; in a small plastic baggie and toss it into my driveway. That should be dealt with as that is nothing more than littering.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m torn by this one. I don&#8217;t want to see us get to the point where we make it so hard for someone to be in business. If you eliminate all marketing these folks will either not make it or be forced to spend money in other ways that will only raise the cost of their product, which hurts consumers.</p><p>The one company that does irritate me is the one who puts their card and a &#8220;rock&#8221; in a small plastic baggie and toss it into my driveway. That should be dealt with as that is nothing more than littering.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Dave@phoenix Air Conditioning</title><link>http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/gilbert-considering-banning-door-hangers-and-fliers/#comment-42012</link> <dc:creator>Dave@phoenix Air Conditioning</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 20:29:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/gilbert-considering-banning-door-hangers-and-fliers/577#comment-42012</guid> <description>If it didn&#039;t work they wouldn&#039;t do it.  It&#039;s really not intrusive to have a flyer in your mailbox or on your door.  at least they are not calling you....</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it didn&#8217;t work they wouldn&#8217;t do it.  It&#8217;s really not intrusive to have a flyer in your mailbox or on your door.  at least they are not calling you&#8230;.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Laura</title><link>http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/gilbert-considering-banning-door-hangers-and-fliers/#comment-41949</link> <dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:38:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/gilbert-considering-banning-door-hangers-and-fliers/577#comment-41949</guid> <description>I live in the south part of Gilbert and I seriously have to take at least 3 flyers off my door a day.  I&#039;ve gotten to where I don&#039;t even look at them and they go straight to my recycling bin.  I even have a no solicitation sign, but doesn&#039;t seem to matter.  I hope they pass this as a resident tired of seeing flyers on my door and in my yard!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in the south part of Gilbert and I seriously have to take at least 3 flyers off my door a day.  I&#8217;ve gotten to where I don&#8217;t even look at them and they go straight to my recycling bin.  I even have a no solicitation sign, but doesn&#8217;t seem to matter.  I hope they pass this as a resident tired of seeing flyers on my door and in my yard!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jay - The Phoenix Real Estate Guy</title><link>http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/gilbert-considering-banning-door-hangers-and-fliers/#comment-39003</link> <dc:creator>Jay - The Phoenix Real Estate Guy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 23:45:46 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/gilbert-considering-banning-door-hangers-and-fliers/577#comment-39003</guid> <description>Clint -Relax, take a deep breath.I do almost entirely &quot;pull&quot; marketing. Not a big fan of push marketing like flyers, mass mailing, non-permission based email/fax etc.I&#039;ve got no problem with business owners marketing however they think works best for them. They have a right to do just that.But you&#039;d think common courtesy and respect would mean that if I have a sign posted on my door that says &quot;no soliciting&quot; and/or &quot;no flyers&quot; that people wouldn&#039;t knock on the door or leave a flyer there. Yet some do (no, not everyone).Leaving a flyer when someone has asked you not to just seems silly. It&#039;d be like calling someone that said &quot;don&#039;t call me&quot;.  I don&#039;t understand why people do exactly this.Should the government step in and ban flyers?  No. In fact, I wish they&#039;d stay the hell out of almost everything.  The simple fact is, the universe could ban drop flyers and it wouldn&#039;t affect my business because I don&#039;t use them (we do have flyers at listings for people to take, &lt;i&gt;if they chose to take them&lt;/i&gt;).Personally, I say use whatever works for you. But respect my wishes as your potential customer and don&#039;t stick your flyer under my sign that says &quot;No Flyers Please&quot; (which has happened in the past).Here is a good article on push vs. pull marketing is anyone is interested:
http://www.morebusiness.com/push-vs-pull-marketing-web2.0</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clint &#8211;</p><p>Relax, take a deep breath.</p><p>I do almost entirely &#8220;pull&#8221; marketing. Not a big fan of push marketing like flyers, mass mailing, non-permission based email/fax etc.</p><p>I&#8217;ve got no problem with business owners marketing however they think works best for them. They have a right to do just that.</p><p>But you&#8217;d think common courtesy and respect would mean that if I have a sign posted on my door that says &#8220;no soliciting&#8221; and/or &#8220;no flyers&#8221; that people wouldn&#8217;t knock on the door or leave a flyer there. Yet some do (no, not everyone).</p><p>Leaving a flyer when someone has asked you not to just seems silly. It&#8217;d be like calling someone that said &#8220;don&#8217;t call me&#8221;.  I don&#8217;t understand why people do exactly this.</p><p>Should the government step in and ban flyers?  No. In fact, I wish they&#8217;d stay the hell out of almost everything.  The simple fact is, the universe could ban drop flyers and it wouldn&#8217;t affect my business because I don&#8217;t use them (we do have flyers at listings for people to take, <i>if they chose to take them</i>).</p><p>Personally, I say use whatever works for you. But respect my wishes as your potential customer and don&#8217;t stick your flyer under my sign that says &#8220;No Flyers Please&#8221; (which has happened in the past).</p><p>Here is a good article on push vs. pull marketing is anyone is interested:<br
/> <a
href="http://www.morebusiness.com/push-vs-pull-marketing-web2.0" rel="nofollow">http://www.morebusiness.com/push-vs-pull-marketing-web2.0</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Clint</title><link>http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/gilbert-considering-banning-door-hangers-and-fliers/#comment-38991</link> <dc:creator>Clint</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 19:36:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/gilbert-considering-banning-door-hangers-and-fliers/577#comment-38991</guid> <description>Jay I would like to know what kind of advertising it is that you do? Email, fax, mass mailings? Or does your business just drop from the sky!? Because no matter how YOU advertise, your bugging the hell out of someone else-just like a flyer is bugging the hell out of you. Deal with it! This is America and we all have a right to be in business and sell as much as we can. If a flyer from a driven motivated business owner or salesperson is bothering you here in America, then move to some socialist *&amp;@#-hole country.I&#039;m bombarded with emails and faxes daily, and I love it! I scan over all of the faxes that come to me and as many emails as I can that catch my eye. Because I love business, I love spending money, and I love motivated, driven people that are making an effort daily to make it in this challenging market. Grow up, and quit complaining about something so petty. By the way, the majority of my business comes from flyers, and I hear on a regular basis how happy the home owner was that they found it because they have been thinking about my service for quite some time and didn&#039;t know where to go.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay I would like to know what kind of advertising it is that you do? Email, fax, mass mailings? Or does your business just drop from the sky!? Because no matter how YOU advertise, your bugging the hell out of someone else-just like a flyer is bugging the hell out of you. Deal with it! This is America and we all have a right to be in business and sell as much as we can. If a flyer from a driven motivated business owner or salesperson is bothering you here in America, then move to some socialist *&amp;@#-hole country.</p><p>I&#8217;m bombarded with emails and faxes daily, and I love it! I scan over all of the faxes that come to me and as many emails as I can that catch my eye. Because I love business, I love spending money, and I love motivated, driven people that are making an effort daily to make it in this challenging market. Grow up, and quit complaining about something so petty. By the way, the majority of my business comes from flyers, and I hear on a regular basis how happy the home owner was that they found it because they have been thinking about my service for quite some time and didn&#8217;t know where to go.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jay - The Phoenix Real Estate Guy</title><link>http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/gilbert-considering-banning-door-hangers-and-fliers/#comment-35104</link> <dc:creator>Jay - The Phoenix Real Estate Guy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:31:46 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/gilbert-considering-banning-door-hangers-and-fliers/577#comment-35104</guid> <description>Sorry I didn&#039;t respond, I missed Stefanie&#039;s comment.Please be aware, I&#039;m not anti-flyer or anti-small business. Heck, I *am* a small businessman.Personally, i don&#039;t use flyers (any more). When I did, I respected people&#039;s wishes, and if they had a &quot;no posting&quot; or &quot;no solicitation&quot; sign on their door, I didn&#039;t place a flyer on their door. Unfortunately, there are many out there that totally ignore these signs. (I&#039;m not saying everyone does, but MANY do ignore them).It&#039;s probably not the governments place to say what people can and can not do with respect to advertising in this manner. It would be nice if everyone respected each others wishes and didn&#039;t post flyers where they weren&#039;t welcome. Sadly, a few bad apples spoil it for everyone -- which is what leads to these sort of &quot;investigations&quot;.Of note: I posted this almost eight months ago. I haven&#039;t heard anything on it since. I can&#039;t find anything on what this subcommittee determined.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry I didn&#8217;t respond, I missed Stefanie&#8217;s comment.</p><p>Please be aware, I&#8217;m not anti-flyer or anti-small business. Heck, I *am* a small businessman.</p><p>Personally, i don&#8217;t use flyers (any more). When I did, I respected people&#8217;s wishes, and if they had a &#8220;no posting&#8221; or &#8220;no solicitation&#8221; sign on their door, I didn&#8217;t place a flyer on their door. Unfortunately, there are many out there that totally ignore these signs. (I&#8217;m not saying everyone does, but MANY do ignore them).</p><p>It&#8217;s probably not the governments place to say what people can and can not do with respect to advertising in this manner. It would be nice if everyone respected each others wishes and didn&#8217;t post flyers where they weren&#8217;t welcome. Sadly, a few bad apples spoil it for everyone &#8212; which is what leads to these sort of &#8220;investigations&#8221;.</p><p>Of note: I posted this almost eight months ago. I haven&#8217;t heard anything on it since. I can&#8217;t find anything on what this subcommittee determined.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: chris the flyer guy</title><link>http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/gilbert-considering-banning-door-hangers-and-fliers/#comment-35099</link> <dc:creator>chris the flyer guy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:08:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/gilbert-considering-banning-door-hangers-and-fliers/577#comment-35099</guid> <description>no response from Jay..well spoken stefanie!!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no response from Jay..well spoken stefanie!!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Rich</title><link>http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/gilbert-considering-banning-door-hangers-and-fliers/#comment-32404</link> <dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 13:46:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/gilbert-considering-banning-door-hangers-and-fliers/577#comment-32404</guid> <description>I just can&#039;t figure out why people have a problem with door and car flyers...
The people that argue about putting a ban on flyers are the reason we send our work overseas... If small businesses in America can&#039;t advertise there doors will close. Let me ask everyone, do you like calling India for your computer tech support? Do you like the fact that when you buy a computer, it was made overseas? If a company like mine can&#039;t get their name out there, then a company like Ridge-Tech Computers would have to close it&#039;s doors! I understand that  the older generation only goes to the phone book when they need something, but have you ever priced an ad in the phone book? It&#039;s crazy! I do plan on getting an ad in the phone book, but to be able to afford 500 dollars per month, I&#039;ll need to get my name out there with Flyers. And to the person that commented about not placing a flyer on a door that says, &quot;No Flyers&quot;, or &quot;No Soliciting&quot;. Trust me I would never place a flyer on those doors. So you see that putting a ban on flyers would hurt America so bad. We send enough money out of this country to do the work that used to be done here. So the next time you see a flyer on your door, or your car. Think about the company that is trying to get you to see their name. Sure throw it away if you don&#039;t want it, but you should at least see what they&#039;re trying to show you. By not even reading the flyer is just being dumb and blind to your surroundings.
Rich</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just can&#8217;t figure out why people have a problem with door and car flyers&#8230;<br
/> The people that argue about putting a ban on flyers are the reason we send our work overseas&#8230; If small businesses in America can&#8217;t advertise there doors will close. Let me ask everyone, do you like calling India for your computer tech support? Do you like the fact that when you buy a computer, it was made overseas? If a company like mine can&#8217;t get their name out there, then a company like Ridge-Tech Computers would have to close it&#8217;s doors! I understand that  the older generation only goes to the phone book when they need something, but have you ever priced an ad in the phone book? It&#8217;s crazy! I do plan on getting an ad in the phone book, but to be able to afford 500 dollars per month, I&#8217;ll need to get my name out there with Flyers. And to the person that commented about not placing a flyer on a door that says, &#8220;No Flyers&#8221;, or &#8220;No Soliciting&#8221;. Trust me I would never place a flyer on those doors. So you see that putting a ban on flyers would hurt America so bad. We send enough money out of this country to do the work that used to be done here. So the next time you see a flyer on your door, or your car. Think about the company that is trying to get you to see their name. Sure throw it away if you don&#8217;t want it, but you should at least see what they&#8217;re trying to show you. By not even reading the flyer is just being dumb and blind to your surroundings.<br
/> Rich</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Stefanie</title><link>http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/gilbert-considering-banning-door-hangers-and-fliers/#comment-32391</link> <dc:creator>Stefanie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 04:29:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/gilbert-considering-banning-door-hangers-and-fliers/577#comment-32391</guid> <description>I forgot to address the statement-True, and am I not free to keep my home and yard free of someone else’s advertising?Are you free to stop direct mail? Are you free to stop unsolicited faxes? Are you free to stop soliciting emails or phone calls?  Are you free to stop people from asking you to buy whatever... Are you free to stop MLM people from bugging you about joing the next biggest thing that is going to make everyone rich? :)Its non-stop any way you look at it!  All I am asking is to look outside the box and consider all the good things flyer delivery has to offer.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to address the statement-</p><p>True, and am I not free to keep my home and yard free of someone else’s advertising?</p><p>Are you free to stop direct mail? Are you free to stop unsolicited faxes? Are you free to stop soliciting emails or phone calls?  Are you free to stop people from asking you to buy whatever&#8230; Are you free to stop MLM people from bugging you about joing the next biggest thing that is going to make everyone rich? <img
src='http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>Its non-stop any way you look at it!  All I am asking is to look outside the box and consider all the good things flyer delivery has to offer.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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