How the Government can Fix the “Foreclosure Crisis”

by Jay Thompson on June 6, 2009 · Comments

in Real Estate

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TARP, bailouts, cram downs, loan modifications. Grants, workshops, faster short sale responses. The list of ideas and thoughts on how to fix “the foreclosure problem” are almost as endless as they are bureaucratic, and expensive.

Here is a thought…

What if we did nothing?

Blasphemy! DO NOTHING? “Are you insane? We have to do something… why we can not simply stand around and wait for this thing to fix itself!’

Why not?

Markets, be they stock markets, commodity markets or real estate markets all behave in similar fashion and are guided by basic economic principles. The Law of Supply and Demand, the economic general equilibrium theory, elasticity – these and more dictate the behavior of markets, including the real estate market.

Back in 1776, Adam Smith wrote about the “invisible hand” in The Wealth of Nations. Grossly over-simplifying and paraphrasing, the theory of the Invisible Hand states that the greatest benefit to a society is brought about by individuals acting freely in a competitive marketplace in the pursuit of their own self-interest. 

The government really has no place interfering in a free market economy. The real estate market will, over time, move toward equilibrium and “fix itself”.

Already we are seeing a shift in the lender-owned home market in some of the nations hardest hit areas – Phoenix, Las Vegas, most of California – all are showing signs of recovery. At this writing, there is just under a one-month supply of bank owned homes in the greater Phoenix metro area. Yes, some of this is a result of major lenders and GSE’s (Government Sponsored Entities –Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac) imposing a moratorium on foreclosures, but it is also a result of the aforementioned economic law and principles in action.

Prices have plummeted, driving investors and regular homeowners alike to see value in the purchase of real estate. Demand is up, supply is down. Take a look at a supply and demand curve, and what you’ll see is a market on the edge of – gasp! – prices about to increase.

Supply and Demand isn’t a theory; it is an economic law. The real estate market wants to be in equilibrium, and inventory and demand and pricing will over time adjust on their own accord to reach this equilibrium.

The question of course becomes one of whether or not these natural adjustments will occur swiftly enough to keep the real estate market from spinning down the toilet.

As one who sells real estate for a living, in Phoenix, Arizona, I think I could make a reasonable argument that the market has already been flushed down the toilet. Home values are now 50% off their highs of two to three years ago. Large brokerage firms are shuttering the doors on offices. Real estate agents are finding “real jobs”, filing for bankruptcy and facing foreclosure themselves.

The problem with the government stepping in to “fix” the market is, and let’s be honest here, they don’t know how to fix it. That is not their fault. No one knows how to fix it. No one has successfully implemented a long-term fix for a market as complex and dynamic as the real estate market.

Oh, economists and banking experts and wizards of all flavors can wax eloquently and ponder and propose all sorts of plans, processes and procedures. But the bottom line is no one knows if anything can truly fix the problems in the market.

Can we even define “fix”?

What does a “fixed” foreclosure market look like? Does that mean that there are no homes in foreclosure? (That never has happened and is just a wee bit unrealistic). Do we defined “fixed” to mean every man, woman and child that wants a “piece of the American Dream” becomes a homeowner? While that ideal may sound nice and work in some place just this side of Nirvana, the reality is that homeownership is not a right, it is a privilege that is earned – and not everyone will earn it (or even want it).

Is “fixed” some certain level of foreclosure inventory? If so, what is that number and who decides it?

What most people want appears to be some sort of normalcy in the real estate market – a balanced or neutral market that is neither completely lopsided on the buy or sell side with gradual home value appreciation. 

I contend that the government needs to step aside and quit trying to influence market dynamics. Clearly, foreclosure is not fun for those facing it. Watching your home decrease in value is hardly anyone’s idea of a good time. But the belief that home value only goes up and that banks and lawyers and politicians can legislate fundamental change in economic law needs a reality check.

They can’t. All they can do is muck things up. We may see short term “fixes” and glimpses of a sunshiny day, but real change in the market will only come with allowing market forces and dynamics to play out.

There is another economic law – the Law of Unintended Consequences. It states, “that actions of people—and especially of government—always have effects that are unanticipated or unintended.”

Yes, some unanticipated or unintended effects can be good. But they can also be bad. Very bad. And the bottom line is, we don’t know what could happen.

I say let the economic laws and market dynamics play out. Let the market adjust. It will adjust. It always does. It may not adjust as quickly as we’d like, but adjust it will. That may mean more banks close, and some homebuilders cease to exist. It may mean more people will lose their homes, as sad as that is. But it is the only solution for the long-term health and stability of the real estate market.

Surely someone out there disagrees with me completely. And that’s OK. What do you think the government should do to fix the “foreclosure crisis”?

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  • I have to agree Jay, the government doesn't know how and should not fix it. It is their responsibility to see that the markets are able to operate freely and fairly. What the feds are doing now is borrowing buyers from the future and chasing the immediate gratification.

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  • What do you mean? We're ENTITLED to be taken care of. The government is our friend. I, for one, need the help of a benevolent government. It's been a tough real estate year, so Bill Gates needs his taxes raised so I can get a bit of help over here in Taos, NM. Or, maybe we'll just borrow some more. Does the U.S. government have a credit score over at Experian?

    Obviously, the banks in trouble aren't operating like mine. I can't write a check from savings, which is where I accumulate funds for my quarterly tax payments (it's that whopping half percent interest rate). I wrote two checks to the IRS on my regular account, and forgot to transfer the money over. A $75 charge for my error is how you make money the old fashioned way...take it from someone else.

    Just kidding, I'm a Libertarian at heart. Great post.

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  • Completely agree and wonder if the government interference will prolong the pain in the effort to appear that they are helping. Pulling a band-aid slowly may seem like it doesn't hurt as much but the time of pain is actually longer.

    <abbr></abbr><abbr>Mike Rohrig´s last blog post..In Short Sales The Patient Buyer Often Wins</abbr>
  • Jay, I love to disagree but I can't. Let the prices fall or the living wage rise. It is really too late for the government to step in and offer some protection to the people. The lobbyist took care of that before the bubble set sail. Now unlike your other libertarian friend and unlike the solid right wing republican, I beleive government has certain responsibilities and we have certain entitlements as a society. But, the government has failed us and on this issue you are right.
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  • How the Government can Fix the “Foreclosure Crisis” — The Phoenix ... http://tinyurl.com/rasrq6
  • Doing nothing more to support the housing market may make sense. That is not the same thing as doing nothing though. It would be a very different world today if nothing had been done. Banks innately require regulation (runs on banks cannot be handled solely by the market effectively). But yes the government trying to make the consequences of bad investments is not wise in general. Those that make bad choices should suffer their losses and be more careful in the future.

    <abbr></abbr><abbr>John Hunter´s last blog post..USA Unemployment Rate Jumps to 9.4%</abbr>
  • Amen, however then we must look at real estate which has always operated with Government intervention. Easy loans has always been part of the deal for Vets, and other groups. And what about taxes?Take away the tax break and why buy? Its a hard argument to win. The $8k going on right now? Nothing free market about that.
    Every crisis brings in more intervention that we collectively accept or cannot do anything about. And now this meddling will somehow be accepted in future generations. I trust people who have to balance a checkbook before I trust a government who has no idea about the consequences of non efficiency.
    Certainly intervention is not new. Its just in the past 8 months or so it has sunk to a new low . The bailout was nothing more than political thank yous for a job well done just months before. As the Gov gets in the car business we are already hearing stories of corruption as politico friends curiously win contracts and keep dealerships as other often more successful enterprises are exterminated. Competition and profit motive gets replaced by payoffs and favors.
  • How the Government can Fix theForeclosure Crisis The Phoenix Real ...: As one who sells real estate for a living.. http://tinyurl.com/rasrq6
  • Jay, you are a capitalist and I'm with you! Ups and Downs, Supply and Demand, all are normal for any product or service including housing. If they just stayed out of the way, this whole thing would work itself out......like it always has in the past.

    <abbr></abbr><abbr>Jacksonville Real Estate Agent - Brad Officer´s last blog post..Jacksonville Homes For Sale - Price Slashing</abbr>
  • Houses prices will always work themselves out in the long run. Some times they will be over priced and other times they will be under priced and every once in a while they will reflect true value.
    It is to bad that the philosophy of everyone should own a house controlled the market for a good period of time. That led to this so called mortgage crisis. People who could not afford a home where given mortgages when they should not have been. Government, please stay out of the market.

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  • Tim I agree with you on the gov intervention for the most part always been there. Veterans get a little more favorable loan for a fee (service) FHA is an insured loan that the feds created and has worked well. The borrower contributes money in the form of insurance premiums. I am good with that type of intervention, but giving away money is not the same.

    Feds, taking over the auto, can you say yugo? I think they should put them on the selling block and allow free enterprise to deal with it.

    Jim I prefer the word expectations rather than entitlement. I think we agree just use a different word for it.

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  • As the article states, the government should have no hand in how certain businesses are run (all businesses for that matter). I believe in capitalism, and that if a company fails, the company should fail. Sometimes people just have to realize that we learn from failures, and that sometimes, failure is needed in order to grow and prosper.
  • I think that the govt should follow through with the plan to sell the toxic assets so that the banks can start lending again and thus creating demand for these foreclosed homes. It is a surefire way of getting things moving once again.

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  • Talk about hitting the nail on the head! This is so dead on. Now if we could get get the administration to read it.

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  • 3 Cheers for Laissez-faire, Laissez-faire, Laissez-faire

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  • How the Government can Fix the “Foreclosure Crisis” — The Phoenix ... http://tinyurl.com/rasrq6
  • I believe that sooner or later the Federal Government will overcome this problem of " Foreclosure Crisis". As we have seen in recent past that Obama Administration has not only introduced but also sanctioned new packages to cope up with this Crisis.
  • Now that all the bailouts are done I am wondering if all this government borrowing is going to lead to massive massive inflation. The last I read 50 cents of every dollar spent this year by the government is borrowed. It also seems like the last few government debt auctions have not gone that well.
  • The Law of Unintended Consequences came into play when the Veterans Administration outsourced handling of their foreclosures. The year and a half or so it took for the separate contractors to get those homes out on the market by mid-late 2006 certainly did not help things.

    Oh, Jay - you're link's broke on your Inman comment from this morning. Gets you here, but to a "404 Error" page....

    Navy Chief, Navy Pride

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  • I do not know how but should.
  • I like to call it Darwinism Economics. Survival of the fittest. Nobody bails my little real estate company out. We all are trying to keep our heads above water. Saw everyone else milking the system and tried to get my piece of the action and do note modification on my Coolidge rental that has lost 50% value. I continue to make payments, lender said they could not help me because I was investor. It's ok for them to sell houses in areas lower than they need to which hurts the people holding. Told them they had no problems loaning to investors during the boom. They said I could do a short sale. Crazy logic, instead of reducing the principal by $20,000 and lowering the rate a tad they would rather lose 50% on a short sale. I can't even get close to figuring that out. Drives me insane. If you think the government can do anything just walk into any post office any time of day and see the anger in workers faces, long lines, poor service. How about trying to pick up the phone right now and call the IRS. Need I go on. I have a new motto for America. Do nothing get everything, do everything get nothing. People like us make the world go round. We don't milk the system for anything. No matching 401k, health care, unemployment. Yet we pay the highest taxes and keep the country running. Something to ponder when you are sweating your ass off today showing Bob an Betty houses all over the valley. You realtors have it made. Making all that money and hardly working. Yea right.
  • Great post and I'm glad to see someone in the real industry industry arguing so eloquently for doing nothing.
    There seems to be a perception that if people lose their home to foreclosure that they're out on the streets. I don't see much evidence that this is happening. In fact, they're moving into rental properties where they have a much less onerous housing payment, and probably a great deal stress. Their credit's shot, but that's only for a finite time period, and frankly, reined-in credit for these folks is probably a good thing. Meanwhile, the foreclosed properties are slowly but surely get sopped up by folks who can finally afford to buy. Seems the market's largely working as intended.

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  • Jay, The little bit of federal and state tax credits briefly gave the lower end market here a big boost. Now with the interest rates rising I have already seen a slowdown. Nobody is asking for handouts, we all realize this will take hard work and a long time to sort it self out but just a little help form the Gov't sure goes a long way in some markets
  • Bruce -

    No one is asking for handouts? Just about every financial institution east and west of the Mississippi wants a bail out.

    The governments involvement extends way beyond tax credits. Bailouts, the all but failed Hope Now program, mucking about in appraisal practices, silly and worthless "plans" to help people buy foreclosures. When is it going to stop?
  • From reading the many responses here, I would say there is a lot of self serving pre-conceived ideas as to how we got where we are today. I know a lot of VA and FHA borrowers that were very careful and thoughtful in the purchase of their home. Today, like my own income, they find themselves out of work or making much less than they did when they signed for the loan.

    I find the homes that caused the problem were not the ones that were given loans because the banks were told to stop the red lining practice but, individuals like the one who made the comment; "Saw everyone else milking the system and tried to get my piece of the action and do note modification on my Coolidge rental that has lost 50% value."

    Call it whatever you want. The government failed us. We had one of the individuals in charge say it was "irrational exuberance" while the top dog declared home ownership at the highest level under his watch. And, all the time the lobbyists were set out to change the bankruptcy laws. Me?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xmKBf8QWsA

    I'm not above........
  • All I can say is somebody please, ban the short sales. Nobody around Northern New Jersey seems to know what they are doing when it comes to listing them anyway. Still running into agents who are listing homes for sale short sale, when the home owner has not even filed any paperwork with the bank to even start the process. What a drag.

    As always Jay, a well written piece of real estate market opinion.
  • Just reform the system to keep thieves and swindlers in check, then let the market do everything naturally. History has proven that a government is better of lightly touching an economy with policy to keep it stable, rather than completely take it over and make it inefficient. Unfortunately for us the last president didn't want any oversight of anything, which is the exact opposite problem and causes businesses to become organized crime vessels.

    <abbr></abbr><abbr>Portland Real Estate´s last blog post..Red Tail Golf Course: SW Portland</abbr>
  • Agree with your sentiment Jay - "let the economic laws and market dynamics play out". Unfortunately a "crisis" is too much for politicians, policy makers and bureaucrats to not take full advantage of for their own gains.
  • Jay, you make fine points, and you went all the way back to Adam Smith! Remember Adam didn't anticipate labor unions so maybe we can have some modification on his economic theories. I would agree with you up to a point, but I do think that the government having programs to fix mortgages at an affordable rate, is like the government becoming a short sale specialist. I know the distrust in government folks out their will see this as a left wing conspiracy, but after TARP, shouldn't something be done for the homeowner? Le cat is out of le bag.

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  • Jay, if you're going to say something this wise, you need to make sure people read it. Shout this from the top of Camelback!

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  • stephen
    A few words on economic theory.....

    The invisible hand really does not exist.
    The Wealth of Nations was written in a time when slavery was one of the largest industries in America. It was written before we had a stock market, 150 years before there was ever a major stock market crash.
    People very seldom act with rational self-interest.
    Supply & Demand or General Equilibrium theory assume infinite amounts of capital, "perfect knowledge" & 100% market access. None of which has ever actually existed.

    The absolute most important economic consideration for a working free market economy is RISK!!!!!

    Risk is what is supposed to set your rates of return. Risk is what is supposed to set your costs of borrowing and levels of lending.

    What should the government do?
    Bust all the large financial institutions into thousands of small banks. Large institutions have too much sway in access to capital, investment pricing & they skew risk in crazy ways.
    The government should also invest tons & tons of money in national infrastructure.


    What I'd really like to see is voiding every CDO, CDS, MBS and any mortgage insurance policy held by any financial institution with a government stake & offer every available title over on a nationwide online auction or "Oklahoma land-rush" style lottery. Yee-Haw.
  • "The Wealth of Nations was written in a time when slavery was one of the largest industries in America. It was written before we had a stock market, 150 years before there was ever a major stock market crash."

    So was the Constitution.
  • Hit the nail on the head with this one!
  • @Jay - I agree with some items in your post, but completely disagree with your conclusion that government should stay out of it. In addition I would like to step up to your challenge of suggesting a fix to the foreclosure problem. I feel that the depth I would need to go into would be best as a post rather than a simple comment. I have emailed you about making a guest post on the topic to be posted to your blog.

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  • I've become very uncomfortable with the idea of the federal and state governments manipulating the local housing markets. I continue to believe that real estate is a local phenomenon, and umbrella intervention will likely do more harm than good. We've had several rounds of foreclosure moratoriums (moratoria?), and another informal moratorium has apparently been imposed for California. The result has been a dwindling supply of homes for sale in San Diego. Prices are pushing up and overbidding has become the norm as buyers compete for the discounted distress sales. There is talk of a backlog of foreclosure inventory, and we could really use more foreclosure properties on the market in San Diego right now. It should be the local banks and local asset managers who decide when and how many foreclosure properties to release. By looking at California as a whole, the policy makers are equating conditions in San Diego to conditions in Riverside Counties when in fact the markets could not be more different. A responsible policy would be to spread out the administrative decision making over smaller regions to better account for and deal with local real estate market trends.

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  • Of course everything will self regulate, but do we have the time to wait? A regulation cycle may take 200, 500,1000 years, no one has really speculated with any proof on the length of naturally occuring cycles. Kondratieff and co have only given intervals of time with no tangible proof.
  • Responded to this post, then ended up on doctorhousingbubble. If even half of his datum are correct on his post - then it's simply impossible to do nothing. That or make the banks eat it - which will probably result in the demise of Wells Fargo if not other major banks. Not saying that's completely a bad thing - but the "as sad as that is" you mention will be very dire indeed.

    Navy Chief, Navy Pride

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  • Jay - I generally agree with you and would prefer less government intervention. The one thing to keep in mind is that it was government "fixes" that got us here in the first place, including, but hardly limited to:
    1) 250/500k tax credit which incentivized speculation instead of ownership
    2) bank deregulation (specifically the financial services and commodity futures modernization acts)
    3) interest rate manipulation (after dot com bubble)
    4) home interest tax deduction (govt incentive to own vs. rent)
    So my question is to you... if doing nothing is the right choice, does that start now, and do we leave all the things that were already done in place? Or do we undo all the prior "fixes" too? Taking it to the extreme should we abolish the Fed as Andrew Jackson did, or perhaps just the Fed's ability to manipulate interest rates? Where do you draw the line?
    Personally I've come to the conclusion that this bubble is too big not to fix. Unfortunately I don't think we have the political will at this point to do what will ultimately be necessary. I've written up my take on a fix at foreclosuretruth.com.
    Best,
    Sean

    <abbr></abbr><abbr>Sean OToole´s last blog post..Twelve percent of mortgages now past due - foreclosure is clearly not the problem anymore</abbr>
  • Sean what 250/500 k tax credit are you talking about? Do you mean 250/500 tax exemption.

    While it may appear as an intervention, I view that as removing a punitive tax. Now I realize the system gets manipulated, but people should not be taxed for gaining equity in a primary residence. Typically their equity was built with after tax earnings (barring interest deductions).

    Rate manipulation will give false values and stop prices in some areas from going down some. But if the rates go up a little to quickly there will be a new group of homeowners upside down. I am quite sure that was not the plan but...

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  • Yep, meant exemption, not credit. I disagree that taxable equity is built with after tax earnings. Only gains above the original purchase price are taxable, and its impossible to create gains with after tax earnings by definition (sorry making payments on debt isn't what creates appreciation).

    If we continue to allow these gains to be TAX FREE, then we incentivize people to speculate with their primary residence. This is going to have serious long term consequences as baby boomers have been encouraged to play monopoly rather than pay down debt. Boomer's parents largely entered retirement in free and clear homes, while baby boomers are approaching that life event loaded with mortgage debt. It is a coming disaster that most haven't realized yet.

    <abbr></abbr><abbr>Sean OToole´s last blog post..Twelve percent of mortgages now past due - foreclosure is clearly not the problem anymore</abbr>
  • In the long run, it seems as though the government is contributing in creating a spoiled society. If people are used to being bailed out all the time, it really doesnt fix anything. I tend to agree, economic problems tend to NATURALLY work themselves out in time. But,, I do think that a way that may help is loan modifications. I dont believe bail out money is the answer. I personally feel that loan mods might be a healthy step that wouldnt hurt. Any suggestions on that?? Thanks for the article.

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  • I agree, let this unfold naturally but that would just make too much sense.

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  • Just commented on Jay Thompson's blog: http://tinyurl.com/rasrq6
  • DavidDock
    I appreciate the concern which is been rose. The things need to be sorted out because it’s not about the individual but it can be with everyone.I do think that a way that may help is loan modifications. I dont believe bail out money is the answer. I personally feel that loan mods might be a healthy step that wouldnt hurt.

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  • Couldn't have said it better myself-letting it work itself out is the best. It seems to me that by "bailing out" everyone, we are just simply artificially keeping everything higher than it should be and eventually it will come down, no matter how much money we throw at it. Supply and Demand is far stronger than any billions of bailout and we should just let it do its magic.
  • Loan modification, with a significant reduction in principal balance to within 10% of market value, done voluntarily by the lender to borrowers with sufficient income, is a step in the right direction. Otherwise, the do-nothing approach may be the best strategy.

    <abbr></abbr><abbr>Marty Boardman´s last blog post..Foreclosure 2.0: Mortgage Running</abbr>
  • Amen! You make several great points here. Like Sean OToole said, relying on the government to get us out of this mess seems ridiculous when you consider all the things the government did to land us in this mess in the first place. Another great post!
  • Loan Modifications? What is that? Some sort of Orwellian doublespeak? Whatever happened to, "say what you mean, mean what you say"? A modificaton to a loan is an adjustment on the interest rate or length of time to the terms. It is not a forgiveness of debt. We now have a bunch of weasles threatening banks that they will walk if they can't get their own way. I say let them walk and the credit report will follow. Stupid has risen to it's own level of Stupid.
  • Perhaps Gregory, but lets be clear the "stupidest of all" were those who believed real estate only goes up, and therefore thought it was a good idea to make loans for more than double the intrinsic value of properties. The reality is that we have $4 Trillion in excess mortgage debt in this country, that borrowers simply don't have the ability to repay, and it is now choking our economy and hurting everyone. How long should we all suffer for the mistakes made by Greenspan, politicians and banksters? If we are going to have bailouts, I'd personally rather bailout borrowers than banksters.

    Many who came to this country actually did so to escape "rentiers" who used their land holdings to enslave and manipulate debtors. One could argue we've returned to that through mortgage debt. The original definition of "free" markets was actually to be free from these rentiers (includes not just landlords, but anyone who extracts income from holdings rather than production). Kills me to now see "free markets" misused to defend and bailout the rentiers while blaming the debtors.

    <abbr></abbr><abbr>Sean OToole´s last blog post..Twelve percent of mortgages now past due - foreclosure is clearly not the problem anymore</abbr>
  • I remember sitting with a lender almost three years ago for a personal investment property. He was trying to convince me that a negative amortization loan was the way to go if I were a serious investor since real estate appreciates at 6% a year, the interest rates were 6% and I could make 10-15% investing the payment difference in the stock market.

    Luckily I didn't go that route but there are many who did, especially when it was framed as the way to go for sophisticated investors!

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  • Call it whatever you like...a loan modification or forgiveness of debt. The discussion is about fixing the foreclosure crisis. If a homeowner walks as you propose there will certainly be even more foreclosures on the horizon.

    <abbr></abbr><abbr>Marty Boardman´s last blog post..Foreclosure 2.0: Mortgage Running</abbr>
  • Sean and Marty, I am more in your camp than you may think. And, I do beleive there are workable solutions to the economic problems we face that require our government to fix. It just yanks my shorts to hear the political correct soft words rather than calling a spade a spade. The problems with getting anything done is the twisting of the language to call rain liquid sunshine. The ones I am angry with are the ones that " “Saw everyone else milking the system and tried to get my piece of the action " - let them walk.

    I've been hurt more by this foolishness because I didn't try to get in on the action. I sold homes to people who could afford to buy them and put money aside in a 401K so there would be a safety net for me and my family. I didn't realize the white collar MBA criminals were going to wipe me out along with those that over extended themselves with homes they could not afford.

    Well, at least I get to watch Trump say "you're fired" on cable TV at night.
  • I belive you are right-items like this, where it is based on supply and demand, work themselves out quite nicely when just left alone.
  • Letting the economy ride itself out is one if the smartest bits of economic advice I have heard out there-it is one Dave Ramsey is pushing for, along with other economic "pros"-and in the long run, it looks like no matter the amount of bailouts given, the economy is going to do what it has to do-either now or later-but it will happen.

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  • The economy is a circular cycle and recession is just a part of it. So, one of these days the economy will definitely get better whether we like it or not. And even if we don't do anything about it.
  • I agree with you; the economy will take care of itself if we allow it to just work out the supply and demand ratio. And no matter what we do to try to "fix" it, the economy will do what it needs to do to get healthy, regardless of bailouts.
  • Great post Jay.

    It doesn't really matter if the government fixes the problem or not, given time, the real estate market will improve due to the equilibrium between supply and demand that you explained. Just have to bare the economic pain until that time.

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  • Politicians aren't as interested in solutions to problems as they are interested in appearing to be doing something. Affordable housing is a perfect example. In my neck of the woods (CA) politicians have been screaming for years about the overiding need for affordable housing. Well now we have it but they don't want to talk about affordability anymore. Politicians weren't really interested in affordable housing they were interested in being perceived as caring about affordable housing. The market has delivered exactly what the wanted but they aren't happy. The incredible thing is that is is the law of unintended consequences that created the affordable housing. Bad lending policy designed to increase home ownership leads to unaffordable housing but is unsustainable so the invisible hand of the market bitchslaps the housing market. The unintended consequence of their attempts to create affordable housing worked but they did it the hard way.
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