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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;JB&#8221; says, ZILLOW SUCKS!</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 22:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: P. from Weston MA</title>
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		<dc:creator>P. from Weston MA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 05:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, honestly looking at Zillow estimates in my town (Weston MA) they are generally way off -- however I think people understand that, they know that this is the result of some kind of regression model and is not really an indicator of sales price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, honestly looking at Zillow estimates in my town (Weston MA) they are generally way off &#8212; however I think people understand that, they know that this is the result of some kind of regression model and is not really an indicator of sales price.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Asteak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Asteak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 01:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zillow "Guess-Idiots" appear to rely on public tax records that in some cases haven't been updated in twenty-five years. The zestimator is a sketchy tool to rely on. I believe it's best to use a Professional Realtor when appraising property.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zillow &#8220;Guess-Idiots&#8221; appear to rely on public tax records that in some cases haven&#8217;t been updated in twenty-five years. The zestimator is a sketchy tool to rely on. I believe it&#8217;s best to use a Professional Realtor when appraising property.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay - The Phoenix Real Estate Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay - The Phoenix Real Estate Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 16:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. That last comment provides startling evidence of the importance of punctuation.

Sorry Marcus, I can't figure out what you're trying to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. That last comment provides startling evidence of the importance of punctuation.</p>
<p>Sorry Marcus, I can&#8217;t figure out what you&#8217;re trying to say.</p>
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		<title>By: marcus</title>
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		<dc:creator>marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 15:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You people all talk about zillow like its gods gift to earth fact is buyers are using this in accurate information as a basis to there counter offer have had all offers come in at zillows zestimate why ill tell you why cause they are going there and think that zestimate is the price my homes worth lost more than a percentage of value from a decaying market might as well never pay for an appraisel cause zillow knows my market better with an algorithum than my realtors do or my appraisers get real down with zillow some things cant be done worldwide at a key stroke some things take time grow up juvenile computer geeks one day technology will be your undoing your gonna computerize yourselves right into the matrix theory! And wake up with a computer up your ass!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You people all talk about zillow like its gods gift to earth fact is buyers are using this in accurate information as a basis to there counter offer have had all offers come in at zillows zestimate why ill tell you why cause they are going there and think that zestimate is the price my homes worth lost more than a percentage of value from a decaying market might as well never pay for an appraisel cause zillow knows my market better with an algorithum than my realtors do or my appraisers get real down with zillow some things cant be done worldwide at a key stroke some things take time grow up juvenile computer geeks one day technology will be your undoing your gonna computerize yourselves right into the matrix theory! And wake up with a computer up your ass!</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Chimento</title>
		<link>http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/jb-says-zillow-sucks/335/comment-page-1#comment-13430</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Chimento</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 05:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.exchangeca.com/frames2.asp?url=http://tools.1parkplace.com/mlsWizard/mlsredirect.aspx?userid=31759&amp;providerid=0&amp;mode=20&amp;sort=high " > &#8211;Click Here for More Photos&#8212; Emerald St &#8211;</a><br />
Newer Roof &amp; Most Dual Paned Windows on this NW Pacific Beach House, Only 6 Blocks to Ocean. One BR Being Used as Family Room; doors available. MBR Attached but Off Enclosed Porch. Full Size Lot. 13&#215;20 Enclosed Porch. Prudential Dunn, Realtors 858 245-7881<br />
<a href="http://www.exchangeca.com/frames2.asp?url=http://tools.1parkplace.com/mlswizard/MlsRedirect.aspx?userid=31759&amp;search=398&amp;mode=200&amp;providerid=0" > &#8211;Click Here for Pacific Beach Homes&#8211;</a><br />
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		<title>By: Maureen Francis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maureen Francis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 08:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did your shirt arrive yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did your shirt arrive yet?</p>
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		<title>By: Roberta Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roberta Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 14:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay:

Don't you imagine at one time there were similar fears when MLS systems began to distribute real estate information? We can witness those fears in parts of Europe, where the usage of multliple listing services is relatively new. 

It is resistance to change--and the desire to stay with what is known and controllable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay:</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you imagine at one time there were similar fears when MLS systems began to distribute real estate information? We can witness those fears in parts of Europe, where the usage of multliple listing services is relatively new. </p>
<p>It is resistance to change&#8211;and the desire to stay with what is known and controllable.</p>
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		<title>By: John Lockwood</title>
		<link>http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/jb-says-zillow-sucks/335/comment-page-1#comment-13089</link>
		<dc:creator>John Lockwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 02:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay, thanks for posting JB's comments.  It's nice to hear from an industry-friendly consumer.  

I have to agree I'm with JB on this one.  One of the features about the RE.net that I would feel most embarassed about if I were a member of it is the extent to which they'll bend over and hold their ankles for any web-based map application that sends them flowers and promises to respect them in the morning.  I've pointed out what I take to be the main reason in a recent article, but I think a large portion of what motivates it is also an attempt to prove that "I'm eriuditer than you are", as the old joke goes.

Or perhaps this tale also tells part of the story:

Once there was a man named Milktoast, who's boss was absent from work most of the time.  All his co-workers used it as an excuse to play hookie, but not Milktoast, he would show up for work every day.  One day Milktoast finally gave into pressure and went home early, only to find his boss in bed with his wife.  He snuck out un-noticed.

When he returned to work the next day, his co-workers told him, "Hey Milktoast, good for you, you went home early!"  and Milktoast replied, "Yeah, and I'm not doing it again -- I almost got caught!"

No, Zillow won't drive us out of business.  Driving is superfluous, since most of the lemmings writing about it are perfectly willing to walk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay, thanks for posting JB&#8217;s comments.  It&#8217;s nice to hear from an industry-friendly consumer.  </p>
<p>I have to agree I&#8217;m with JB on this one.  One of the features about the RE.net that I would feel most embarassed about if I were a member of it is the extent to which they&#8217;ll bend over and hold their ankles for any web-based map application that sends them flowers and promises to respect them in the morning.  I&#8217;ve pointed out what I take to be the main reason in a recent article, but I think a large portion of what motivates it is also an attempt to prove that &#8220;I&#8217;m eriuditer than you are&#8221;, as the old joke goes.</p>
<p>Or perhaps this tale also tells part of the story:</p>
<p>Once there was a man named Milktoast, who&#8217;s boss was absent from work most of the time.  All his co-workers used it as an excuse to play hookie, but not Milktoast, he would show up for work every day.  One day Milktoast finally gave into pressure and went home early, only to find his boss in bed with his wife.  He snuck out un-noticed.</p>
<p>When he returned to work the next day, his co-workers told him, &#8220;Hey Milktoast, good for you, you went home early!&#8221;  and Milktoast replied, &#8220;Yeah, and I&#8217;m not doing it again &#8212; I almost got caught!&#8221;</p>
<p>No, Zillow won&#8217;t drive us out of business.  Driving is superfluous, since most of the lemmings writing about it are perfectly willing to walk.</p>
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		<title>By: P. from Weston MA</title>
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		<dc:creator>P. from Weston MA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 17:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hahahah! What a hilarious email, I love the Internet so much.  

Seriously though, Zillow is awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hahahah! What a hilarious email, I love the Internet so much.  </p>
<p>Seriously though, Zillow is awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 15:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you and Greg.  It is clear that (1) Zillow's Zestimate is not an appraisal and (2) Zillow doesn't sell homes.

The Arizona Board of Appraisal is foolish in trying to make a consumer-oriented AVM out to be an appraisal - and to require Zillow to have an Arizona Appraiser's license to provide Arizona Zestimates.  If this precedent was set any mortgage bank worth its salt would be required to hold an Arizona appaiser's license as we all run AVMs on a large majority of properties to support or refute appraised value.  It would squash one of the major risk scoring tools lenders across the country use today.

Real estate agents afraid of Zillow are also foolish.  Zillow is not going to sell homes.  Zillow is going to keep real estate in the conversation more than anything else.  It is going to keep more people interested in our industry.  What better thing is there to ask for than that?  I would love it if everyone spent their time talking about what they saw on Zillow - it would mean they're thinking of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you and Greg.  It is clear that (1) Zillow&#8217;s Zestimate is not an appraisal and (2) Zillow doesn&#8217;t sell homes.</p>
<p>The Arizona Board of Appraisal is foolish in trying to make a consumer-oriented AVM out to be an appraisal - and to require Zillow to have an Arizona Appraiser&#8217;s license to provide Arizona Zestimates.  If this precedent was set any mortgage bank worth its salt would be required to hold an Arizona appaiser&#8217;s license as we all run AVMs on a large majority of properties to support or refute appraised value.  It would squash one of the major risk scoring tools lenders across the country use today.</p>
<p>Real estate agents afraid of Zillow are also foolish.  Zillow is not going to sell homes.  Zillow is going to keep real estate in the conversation more than anything else.  It is going to keep more people interested in our industry.  What better thing is there to ask for than that?  I would love it if everyone spent their time talking about what they saw on Zillow - it would mean they&#8217;re thinking of us.</p>
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