Man will trade home for cash – if you leave him there till he dies

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LigermanCBS5 Here is an interesting story from CBS5, Man Will Trade Home for Cash. Deal Comes with a Catch.

Apparently Mark Ligerman is willing to put your name on the deed to his home for $18,000 (or “a new car and some cash”). But this is no traditional sale.

The catch is, you have to be willing to let the 65-year-old Ligerman stay in the home until he dies.

There’s a very sad component to this story. Seems Ligerman’s wife and son were killed on Sept 11, and at that time he moved here to take care of his father who passed away a few years later.

So Ligerman has no real family. He’s also, according to CBS,  lost his job, can’t find another one and is running out of cash.

The video with the report (unfortunately, CBS5 doesn’t allow video embedding) says that Mr. Ligerman has consulted with an attorney and suggests anyone interested do the same.

And I couldn’t agree more.

While I applaud Mr. Ligerman’s creativity, I question whether it would be a wise move for someone to take him up on his offer.

Consider this…

Ligerman “promises to pay” on his $60,000 mortgage until the new owners move in. That’s nice and everything, but keep in mind he has no job, can’t find one, and is running out of cash.

What happens if he doesn’t pay? As the owner-waiting-for-someone-to-die, you have a couple of choices:

    • Let the bank take back the home, your home, that is attached to Ligerman’s mortgage.
    • Evict the 65 year old man with no family.
    • Start making the payments yourself.

None of those are very pleasant options.

What happens if he dies next week? You’ll be making payments on a $60K mortgage. And you’re out the $18K you paid up front.

What happens if he lives another 30 years? Well, assuming he pays his mortgage, you’ll have the home free and clear. But is that worth 18K? According to the public tax records, Ligerman’s home is located in a “PLANNED MOBILE HOME SUBDIVISION SITE”. It appears to be a manufactured home that has had some structural work built around it. This type of home generally declines in value over time – they rarely appreciate.

What happens if the home burns to the ground? Does your insurance cover it, or Ligerman’s? What if he doesn’t keep up with insurance payments?

If you take this deal, you’re basically going to be a landlord with a tenant with a lifetime lease. And you’ve paid that tenant $18,000. Your return is you get what appears to be a manufactured home in what looks like questionable condition at some undetermined point in the future – if he continues to make the payments.

I wish Mr. Ligerman the best, he seems like a nice man who has had some rough times. But personally, I think you’d be crazy to take him up on his offer. If you are one of the “about 20 people” that have contacted him, or if you decide to do this, get an attorney to draw up the documents. You might want to consult with a CPA as well, especially if you think you can treat this like an investment property for tax purposes.

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This was a very interesting article. Good opinion and
research done here. I hope that other readers will
find this to be as helpful and beneficial as I have.
Excellent work indeed. Thank you for taking the time to
share this information with us!

Good one I really like the post.Its good and informative

I agree with you that agreeing to the seller's terms isn't a good idea no matter which way you look at it. I would also consider why he would want to sell the house that way himself. Maybe he's very depressed and possibly suicidal, therefore essentially giving the house away to whoever goes along with the deal. Only he knows if that's true, but I think he'd be better off talking to a professional rather than selling his house.

Very true, life is so lonely if you live by yourself only, especially when are old and nobody's taking care for you.

Yeah that is a good point, weren't there massive amounts of money paid out to the families of the victims?

Yeah this doesn't seem like a very good deal.

"I don't like this deal, not a very good deal!" :)
.-= San Diego Real Estate´s last blog ..$18,000 California Home Tax Buyer Credit Ends April 30th =-.

John Wake mentioned France - famously, the oldest woman ever, Jeanne Calment, struck up a similar deal. IN 1965 at the age of 90 and with no heirs, Calment sold her very desirable apartment in France to a local attorney in a reverse mortgage type of arrangement where he paid her every month in exchange for her apartment when she died. Calment died in 1997 at age 122. Yes, 122. The attorney? Died in 1995. His widow had to pay the mortgage until Calment died.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeanne_Calment

THis guy's only 65 - what if he lives to 100? That's 35 years - even if it wasn't a manufactured home it would probably be a tear-down by then.

How sad that this man has no family and apparently no money either. I wish him well. We all need someone to take care of us when we get old.
.-= Carmen Brodeur´s last blog ..My Top 5 Predictions for the Desert Mountain Turn Over to Members =-.

Hold it! Didn't the families of the 9/11 victims get some crazy amount of money from the government?
.-= John Wake´s last blog ..Arizona Mortgage Rates & News - April 2, 2010 =-.

In France, small investors would sometimes buy homes from elderly homeowners at a big discount because the investor would give the sellers life estates. If the seller died within a few years the investor did especially well. If the seller died 30 years later... not so good.

Now in the United States you can accomplish the same thing with a reverse mortgage. The key in either case is that the homeowners have a lot of equity.
.-= John Wake´s last blog ..Arizona Mortgage Rates & News - April 2, 2010 =-.

This is a very interesting post, I found it searching through Bing. I believe most people will agree with your views. At last - someone with common sense!
PS I quite like the template you are using - where did you find it?

This was a very interesting article. Good opinion and
research done here. I hope that other readers will
find this to be as helpful and beneficial as I have.
Excellent work indeed. Thank you for taking the time to
share this information with us!

Good one I really like the post.Its good and informative

I agree with you that agreeing to the seller's terms isn't a good idea no matter which way you look at it. I would also consider why he would want to sell the house that way himself. Maybe he's very depressed and possibly suicidal, therefore essentially giving the house away to whoever goes along with the deal. Only he knows if that's true, but I think he'd be better off talking to a professional rather than selling his house.

i have wondered if we would see any life estates in this real estate downturn

Very true, life is so lonely if you live by yourself only, especially when are old and nobody's taking care for you.

Yeah that is a good point, weren't there massive amounts of money paid out to the families of the victims?

Yeah this doesn't seem like a very good deal.

"I don't like this deal, not a very good deal!" :)
.-= San Diego Real Estateu00c2u00b4s last blog ..$18,000 California Home Tax Buyer Credit Ends April 30th =-.

John Wake mentioned France - famously, the oldest woman ever, Jeanne Calment, struck up a similar deal. IN 1965 at the age of 90 and with no heirs, Calment sold her very desirable apartment in France to a local attorney in a reverse mortgage type of arrangement where he paid her every month in exchange for her apartment when she died. Calment died in 1997 at age 122. Yes, 122. The attorney? Died in 1995. His widow had to pay the mortgage until Calment died.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeanne_Calment

THis guy's only 65 - what if he lives to 100? That's 35 years - even if it wasn't a manufactured home it would probably be a tear-down by then.

How sad that this man has no family and apparently no money either. I wish him well. We all need someone to take care of us when we get old.
.-= Carmen Brodeuru00c2u00b4s last blog ..My Top 5 Predictions for the Desert Mountain Turn Over to Members =-.

Hold it! Didn't the families of the 9/11 victims get some crazy amount of money from the government?
.-= John Wakeu00c2u00b4s last blog ..Arizona Mortgage Rates & News - April 2, 2010 =-.

In France, small investors would sometimes buy homes from elderly homeowners at a big discount because the investor would give the sellers life estates. If the seller died within a few years the investor did especially well. If the seller died 30 years later... not so good.

Now in the United States you can accomplish the same thing with a reverse mortgage. The key in either case is that the homeowners have a lot of equity.
.-= John Wakeu00c2u00b4s last blog ..Arizona Mortgage Rates & News - April 2, 2010 =-.

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