To me, that part of the story is over, unless someone has some facts that would shed new light on the matter. I can imagine that whole episode was difficult to handle, and to criticize from afar without all the facts doesn’t strike me right, either.

I don’t see how the actions of one person, outside the scope of his job, qualifies the entire executive team as perverse or justifies firing the entire team. The fact that the brother is there means little. Wendell is responsible for his actions, not his brother, nor anyone else.

I have no idea what anyone knew three years ago. I also don’t know Canadian law, but in the US there is a presumption of innocence. I suspect the same may hold true in Canada. If every person accused of a crime was fired, then an awful lot of people would be unemployed.

I am not condoning what Wendell did, but to drag everyone else into it and label the entire executive team as “perverse” and imply they all hoped it would just go away doesn’t seem quite right to me.

We have over 40,000 on RealTalk, and in addition, we have 2200 on PresidentsTalk, 1200 on MLSInformation, 250 on MLSTalk, 1300 on AETalk, 35,000 on e-PROTalk, 450 on Education DirectorsTalk, 400 on REEALINE, and assorted others. John and I spell one another and review every post, in the neighborhood of 500 posts per day, and some days over 1000 posts per day.

The posts are managed in a system we designed and programmed (we have over 40 employees at IC).

People think we are crazy, I say we are passionate. We know what we want to do and we do it. Our early model is explained in Netgain (Hagel).

Remember, I still travel 3 weeks per month, 5 days per week (http://Calendar.InternetCrusade.com).

As for John G, we have known him for years…yes, from the HS days, and he works with us in the acquisition of advertisers and yes, he is a talent. No plans at all yet to use anyone additional at P2, I have a lot of ground work to do initially, but I rule nothing out at this time.

As for my memory, my wife of 27 years is still amazed at some of the stuff I remember. I am the "Historian" for my USNA Company, Class of 1972…I remember somethigs we would like to forget

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all.

Saul

Trust me Saul remembered you. I had the chance to speak with him that evening as well. Over the years I've spent a little time in the RealTalk listserv and had the opportunity to have brief exchanges with Saul. Not only did he remember me, he shared something with me that blew my mind. I think he said there are over 13,000 agents on the listserv and to this day he and John still read each and every post every day. Amazing. I wonder what this does with regard to some of the offerings he has, it would seem to me that some of them overlap. Is there any word of merging his current efforts with Point2? Saul, any plans to put John Giamo to work on Point2? It would seem to me his Homeseekers experience would certainly lend itself well.

Time will tell how P2 succeeds going forward, whether it will be a company bogged down in politics and internal chess-playing, isulated from its customers, or a dynamic company constantly innovating, living by the principles of a learning organization.

Too many times the former evolves and shuts down the genius few who see with different eyes. I hope P2 is the latter.

Mike from Savannah

So, doesn't anyone else think that the ethical behavior of the executive team is really perverse? Three years hoping the issue goes away? Retain a CEO for 3 years whose only defense was the willing participation of a 14-yr old. Any self-respecting board would have asked him to resign 2-3 years ago, not days before his sentencing.

If they had truly cleaned house, and fired the team that showed such terrible ethical judgment, I'd view this completely differently. But the brother still runs the business, and "hired the ceo". Hmmm.

To me, until the core ethical roots are extricated, I'd not do business with them. The victims are also the high quality team they have amassed who are stuck with this overhang.

am i missing something?