Its' been over 6 months. Whats the feedback so far?

_Raj

Jay, I was the first Redfin partner agent in New York. It has worked out just fine. And they have indeed evolved. That doesn't mean we always see eye to eye, but it does mean they are willing to adapt.

How can it hurt your business? Well, if they're successful and you help them become successful, they can expand their business where they hire more agents. Suddenly you are competing against them and you must also kick back 50% of your commission to try to chase those commission dollars. However, the money they're refunding is bottomless-pit venture capital and the money you have to refund are actual dollars that will come out of your pocket.

Their ultimate goal is to disrupt and destroy traditional, full service real estate sales, and your partnership aids them in this goal.

That's great. Awaiting to see what Redfin will be bringing to Phoenix.
.-= Tennessee Waterfront Homes´s last blog ..$32000 MLS® 410 Stewart Street =-.

*Gasp* Jay Thompson, I can't believe you!!

Seriously- congrats on having the cajones to do this...

If you can't service a client, best to place with a brokerage/agent that promotes your ideals of client service and screens their agents apropos...

Awesome. I can't wait to see how this evolves.
.-= Todd Carpenter´s last blog ..X-Mas @ The Bean =-.

Well thanks Jamey!

Abbotsford - would be interested to know if you think this "partnership" could hurt our business.

Jamey, you are completely correct. You do what is best, not decisions made by others. Looking for different business models can help, but at the same time, it can hurt your business.
.-= Abbotsford Real estate´s last blog ..Find Abbotsford Homes for Sale with Legal Suites =-.

The best thing about being in business for yourself is that you have the right do whatever you feel is best for your business. Kudos for being open minded and looking into different business models.

That is what good leaders do and I consider you to be a great leader in our industry!

Kudos to you and Francy, Jay. I'm sure the vetting process was no small feat.

It will be interesting to see if Refin's presence in the Phoenix market brings with it a greater push to raise the bar at other brokerages. Competition is good, as it often brings out the best in the participants while at the same time helps weed out the slackers.

One things is for sure, the business of real estate is changing fast!
.-= Gary Sattelberger´s last blog ..First Time Homebuyer Tax Credit – April 30th deadline quickly approaching! =-.

"How do you anticipate you will play a role once they get established in your market and hire more of their own agents?"

That's a great question Tim...

Right now, Redfin agents will only cover certain areas of the Phoenix metro area. And certain price-points. The Phoenix MLS covers an area literally the size of Massachusetts, so I don't think they'll ever hire enough agents to cover it all. And their model doesn't work well with lower-priced homes, of which there is an abundance in this market.

But only time will tell. In theory, they could of course cover it all at some point. At which the partner relationship would end. But I don't anticipate that happening for quite some time, if ever.

My personal opinion and one I feel strongly about, is this is a great move and shows you have an open mind. I've admired Redfin from their beginning, and the changes they made since then. You are dead on when talking about customer satisfaction and their commitment to it. Good luck and I hope it works out for both of you.

How do you anticipate you will play a role once they get established in your market and hire more of their own agents?
.-= Tim McDonald´s last blog ..Lake County Tweetup-February Review-March Preview =-.

Dear Anonymous -

You're probably thinking of this post:

http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/redfin-60-min...

In that post I said:

If I were the average home buyer or seller, would I use Redfin? Absolutely not. I firmly believe in the four fundamental truths outlined above and I'm not going to purchase or sell the most valuable asset of my life without full representation.

And at that time (May of 2007) that's how I felt.

At this time, almost three years later, Redfin has significantly changed their model. Kelman's a smart guy. Their limited service, rebate 50% (or however much is was back then) model didn't work. So they changed.

No, we don't need "the extra business". But any agent or brokerage worth a damn always looks at new revenue streams, different ways of doing business, and learning opportunities. And that's what this opportunity presents. It's really that simple.

Nothing wrong with that. I think they're misunderstood. I think other brokers mainly wish they thought of their business model first. I like Redfin. I say good for you and good for them getting into the Phoenix market.
.-= GA Short Sale Agent´s last blog ..New HAFA Section Coming Real Soon. =-.

Its' been over 6 months. Whats the feedback so far?

_Raj

Jay, I was the first Redfin partner agent in New York. It has worked out just fine. And they have indeed evolved. That doesn't mean we always see eye to eye, but it does mean they are willing to adapt.

Frankly its good to see alternative real estate models, and kudos to Redfin to having a real vetting process.

How can it hurt your business? Well, if they're successful and you help them become successful, they can expand their business where they hire more agents. Suddenly you are competing against them and you must also kick back 50% of your commission to try to chase those commission dollars. However, the money they're refunding is bottomless-pit venture capital and the money you have to refund are actual dollars that will come out of your pocket.

Their ultimate goal is to disrupt and destroy traditional, full service real estate sales, and your partnership aids them in this goal.

That's great. Awaiting to see what Redfin will be bringing to Phoenix.
.-= Tennessee Waterfront Homesu00c2u00b4s last blog ..$32000 MLSu00c2u00ae 410 Stewart Street =-.

*Gasp* Jay Thompson, I can't believe you!!

Seriously- congrats on having the cajones to do this...

If you can't service a client, best to place with a brokerage/agent that promotes your ideals of client service and screens their agents apropos...

Awesome. I can't wait to see how this evolves.
.-= Todd Carpenteru00c2u00b4s last blog ..X-Mas @ The Bean =-.

Well thanks Jamey!

Abbotsford - would be interested to know if you think this "partnership" could hurt our business.

Jamey, you are completely correct. You do what is best, not decisions made by others. Looking for different business models can help, but at the same time, it can hurt your business.
.-= Abbotsford Real estateu00c2u00b4s last blog ..Find Abbotsford Homes for Sale with Legal Suites =-.

The best thing about being in business for yourself is that you have the right do whatever you feel is best for your business. Kudos for being open minded and looking into different business models.

That is what good leaders do and I consider you to be a great leader in our industry!

Kudos to you and Francy, Jay. I'm sure the vetting process was no small feat.

It will be interesting to see if Refin's presence in the Phoenix market brings with it a greater push to raise the bar at other brokerages. Competition is good, as it often brings out the best in the participants while at the same time helps weed out the slackers.

One things is for sure, the business of real estate is changing fast!
.-= Gary Sattelbergeru00c2u00b4s last blog ..First Time Homebuyer Tax Credit u00e2u0080u0093 April 30th deadline quickly approaching! =-.

"How do you anticipate you will play a role once they get established in your market and hire more of their own agents?"

That's a great question Tim...

Right now, Redfin agents will only cover certain areas of the Phoenix metro area. And certain price-points. The Phoenix MLS covers an area literally the size of Massachusetts, so I don't think they'll ever hire enough agents to cover it all. And their model doesn't work well with lower-priced homes, of which there is an abundance in this market.

But only time will tell. In theory, they could of course cover it all at some point. At which the partner relationship would end. But I don't anticipate that happening for quite some time, if ever.

My personal opinion and one I feel strongly about, is this is a great move and shows you have an open mind. I've admired Redfin from their beginning, and the changes they made since then. You are dead on when talking about customer satisfaction and their commitment to it. Good luck and I hope it works out for both of you.

How do you anticipate you will play a role once they get established in your market and hire more of their own agents?
.-= Tim McDonaldu00c2u00b4s last blog ..Lake County Tweetup-February Review-March Preview =-.

Dear Anonymous -

You're probably thinking of this post:

http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/redfin-60-min...

In that post I said:

If I were the average home buyer or seller, would I use Redfin? Absolutely not. I firmly believe in the four fundamental truths outlined above and I'm not going to purchase or sell the most valuable asset of my life without full representation.

And at that time (May of 2007) that's how I felt.

At this time, almost three years later, Redfin has significantly changed their model. Kelman's a smart guy. Their limited service, rebate 50% (or however much is was back then) model didn't work. So they changed.

No, we don't need "the extra business". But any agent or brokerage worth a damn always looks at new revenue streams, different ways of doing business, and learning opportunities. And that's what this opportunity presents. It's really that simple.

Hm. Seems like I recall seeing an article here where you basically called Redfin worthless. Sounds like you need the extra business

Nothing wrong with that. I think they're misunderstood. I think other brokers mainly wish they thought of their business model first. I like Redfin. I say good for you and good for them getting into the Phoenix market.
.-= GA Short Sale Agentu00c2u00b4s last blog ..New HAFA Section Coming Real Soon. =-.