Comments on: Rehashed: It’s Past Time to Raise the Bar http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/rehashed-its-past-time-to-raise-the-bar/ Phoenix Real Estate - Anything & Everything About It. Plus Random Musings... Fri, 10 Feb 2012 03:19:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Jamie D http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/rehashed-its-past-time-to-raise-the-bar/#comment-67004 Jamie D Sun, 21 Feb 2010 18:10:56 +0000 http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/?p=991#comment-67004 Great article! I agree completely. justhanbai.com Great article! I agree completely.

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]]> By: Russ Dogg http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/rehashed-its-past-time-to-raise-the-bar/#comment-47456 Russ Dogg Wed, 11 Mar 2009 08:57:45 +0000 http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/?p=991#comment-47456 Here are some great realtor scam videos that I assembled youtube. Others are just funny. Realtors really do suck. their only redeeming quality is that they don't qualify for unemployment when they don't sell houses. I go out to a bar with my pals and what do I see? The last realtor I decided not to hire I later found dancing tables topless. I think that was her true calling. Here are some great realtor scam videos that I assembled youtube. Others are just funny.

Realtors really do suck. their only redeeming quality is that they don't qualify for unemployment when they don't sell houses.

I go out to a bar with my pals and what do I see? The last realtor I decided not to hire I later found dancing tables topless. I think that was her true calling.

]]> By: Cedar City Homes http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/rehashed-its-past-time-to-raise-the-bar/#comment-40572 Cedar City Homes Thu, 16 Oct 2008 04:51:36 +0000 http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/?p=991#comment-40572 I totally agree! The standard admission is way to low. It is time to raise the bar! I think you should have to have a min of a 2 year degree and 200 hours of training to become an agent. I totally agree! The standard admission is way to low. It is time to raise the bar! I think you should have to have a min of a 2 year degree and 200 hours of training to become an agent.

]]> By: Cedar City real esta http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/rehashed-its-past-time-to-raise-the-bar/#comment-40571 Cedar City real esta Thu, 16 Oct 2008 04:34:26 +0000 http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/?p=991#comment-40571 I feel it is to easy to both get a license and keep one. We need to step up the bar and also step up the enforcement of rules that are already in place so bad realtors get the boot! I feel it is to easy to both get a license and keep one. We need to step up the bar and also step up the enforcement of rules that are already in place so bad realtors get the boot!

]]> By: Santa Barbara Real E http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/rehashed-its-past-time-to-raise-the-bar/#comment-32740 Santa Barbara Real E Fri, 30 May 2008 21:41:57 +0000 http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/?p=991#comment-32740 I could not agree more that it is too easy to get a license. I think there should for sure be a set of minimum standards such as: 1) Less than 2 years of college, then you need to take 2 semesters specifically about real estate law, ethics etc...then pass a rigorous test. 2) 2 years of college...then you need to take 1 semester of classes about real estate law, ethics etc....then pass a rigorous test. 3) and so on I was over in The Netherlands discussing real estate with a friend who is a Borker there and she was shocked at how easy it is here. In the Netherlands you have to get a "degree" towards real estate and learn about law, ethics, history, construction, architecture etc. At a minimum I would be all for upping the requirements some. I could not agree more that it is too easy to get a license. I think there should for sure be a set of minimum standards such as:

1) Less than 2 years of college, then you need to take 2 semesters specifically about real estate law, ethics etc…then pass a rigorous test.

2) 2 years of college…then you need to take 1 semester of classes about real estate law, ethics etc….then pass a rigorous test.

3) and so on

I was over in The Netherlands discussing real estate with a friend who is a Borker there and she was shocked at how easy it is here. In the Netherlands you have to get a "degree" towards real estate and learn about law, ethics, history, construction, architecture etc.

At a minimum I would be all for upping the requirements some.

]]> By: Gaydon - Cedar City http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/rehashed-its-past-time-to-raise-the-bar/#comment-32564 Gaydon - Cedar City Wed, 28 May 2008 12:46:44 +0000 http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/?p=991#comment-32564 Great comments. Broker problem... yes. More to it... yes. I couldn't agree more about the requirements not being stringent enough. A popular thing in my neck of the woods is people doing real estate extremely part time or just to be able to buy a home and safe some money. Another thing that is very smart for contractors to do is get their license and then hire little helpers to help sell and they can save tons of money! or make tons more money, which ever way you view it. Great comments. Broker problem… yes. More to it… yes. I couldn't agree more about the requirements not being stringent enough.

A popular thing in my neck of the woods is people doing real estate extremely part time or just to be able to buy a home and safe some money.

Another thing that is very smart for contractors to do is get their license and then hire little helpers to help sell and they can save tons of money! or make tons more money, which ever way you view it.

]]> By: Jay - The Phoenix Re http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/rehashed-its-past-time-to-raise-the-bar/#comment-32506 Jay - The Phoenix Re Tue, 27 May 2008 17:23:34 +0000 http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/?p=991#comment-32506 "but the broker level is where the problems begin… not necessarily new licensee’s." Agreed 100%. Pound away. "but the broker level is where the problems begin… not necessarily new licensee’s."

Agreed 100%.

Pound away.

]]> By: Todd Tarson http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/rehashed-its-past-time-to-raise-the-bar/#comment-32502 Todd Tarson Tue, 27 May 2008 15:35:13 +0000 http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/?p=991#comment-32502 True, it makes you different... but most importantly... on the right track to perhaps finding a solution to the problems you outline (and I agree with). I hate to pound on brokers... but the broker level is where the problems begin... not necessarily new licensee's. True, it makes you different… but most importantly… on the right track to perhaps finding a solution to the problems you outline (and I agree with).

I hate to pound on brokers… but the broker level is where the problems begin… not necessarily new licensee's.

]]> By: Jay - The Phoenix Re http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/rehashed-its-past-time-to-raise-the-bar/#comment-32491 Jay - The Phoenix Re Tue, 27 May 2008 13:22:42 +0000 http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/?p=991#comment-32491 Interesting thoughts Todd. The idea of paying an "apprentice wage" is particularly interesting. As a freshly minted broker, about all I could pay would be more akin to a "slave wage" but I get where you are coming from... An issue with paying wages is that also entails having a payroll system, withholding state and federal taxes, paying unemployment, etc. There's a TON of work involved with having employees vs. independent contractors. I have a background in HR, so I could probably pull it off -- at least well enough to cover myself and my employees from a legal perspective. But there are countless brokers out there with no clue about things like employment law, ADA guidelines, UI, etc. etc. Personally, I'm not going to have new agents in my brokerage. Sure, everyone has to start sometime, and there are some brand new agents that are better than some established agents. I just don't have the time of infrastructure in place to properly train and mentor a new agent. So I won't do it. Oh, believe me, the thought of going to a real estate school and signing up dozens of agents, all paying in desk fees, transaction fees, whatever fees has some attraction. It's practically free money (which is a significant part of the problem). But I'm not going to do it. I don't want the headache, the liability or the hassle. And more importantly, it's not fair to the new agent, or their clients. I've already turned away far more agents than I've hired. And I'll continue doing that. We're being *very* selective in who we bring in. That doesn't make me better than any other broker, just different than most. Interesting thoughts Todd. The idea of paying an "apprentice wage" is particularly interesting. As a freshly minted broker, about all I could pay would be more akin to a "slave wage" but I get where you are coming from…

An issue with paying wages is that also entails having a payroll system, withholding state and federal taxes, paying unemployment, etc. There's a TON of work involved with having employees vs. independent contractors. I have a background in HR, so I could probably pull it off — at least well enough to cover myself and my employees from a legal perspective. But there are countless brokers out there with no clue about things like employment law, ADA guidelines, UI, etc. etc.

Personally, I'm not going to have new agents in my brokerage. Sure, everyone has to start sometime, and there are some brand new agents that are better than some established agents. I just don't have the time of infrastructure in place to properly train and mentor a new agent. So I won't do it. Oh, believe me, the thought of going to a real estate school and signing up dozens of agents, all paying in desk fees, transaction fees, whatever fees has some attraction. It's practically free money (which is a significant part of the problem). But I'm not going to do it. I don't want the headache, the liability or the hassle. And more importantly, it's not fair to the new agent, or their clients.

I've already turned away far more agents than I've hired. And I'll continue doing that. We're being *very* selective in who we bring in. That doesn't make me better than any other broker, just different than most.

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