DC seems to keep saying such amazing things. I laugh at them till I remember that they are running the country, then I start to CRY! Can they start a group in DC called PA. Yes, politicians anonymous. Those folks need some help and a big dose of common sense.

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Dr. Paul was illustrating the fact that the money isn’t the government’s; it’s the individual taxpayer’s. It’s not a re-election trick. It’s Paul’s way of trying to work within the system to slowly erode the income tax.

Free markets don’t necessarily mean “free stuff” for all. Right?

Thanks for sharing this little pearl of wisdom Jay…

I think Ron Paul's problem is that he's such a purist that he says things without really thinking. Far from being calculated, I think he is so infatuated with his own crazy thought process that he will say almost anything regardless of the consequences. I don't know which statement was dumber, the permanent tax credit or his remarks advocating that corporations should be able to ignore civil rights laws.

do yourself a favour, don't vote to this guys again! and im totally agree with "Having said all that, I disagree with him, and I can’t explain the natural disaster credit, which does carry the stench of rotting political pork. When you move into an area prone to natural disasters, and these are well documented by now, you must be prepared to shoulder those risks yourselves."

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Corey got it.

Dr. Paul was illustrating the fact that the money isn’t the government’s; it’s the individual taxpayer’s. It’s not a re-election trick. It’s Paul’s way of trying to work within the system to slowly erode the income tax.

I think what Paul is doing is working within a broken system to allow markets to adjust naturally. IOW, a permanent first time home buyers tax credit will not create a short-lived feeding frenzy, like we just saw, but will create a business as usual atmosphere. His comment about using your own money makes sense when you look at it like that. People, thinking people that is, understand that taxes are our own money, but a quick tax credit is often presented as a govt tax credit. That kinda sounds like OPM, which is a stupid game that politicians play.

Having said all that, I disagree with him, and I can't explain the natural disaster credit, which does carry the stench of rotting political pork. When you move into an area prone to natural disasters, and these are well documented by now, you must be prepared to shoulder those risks yourselves.

"And I’ll bet you $10 that in some re-election stump speech he points out that he tried to permanently extend the home buyer tax credit"

You have to read Ron Paul to understand his motivations, Jay. He serially attacks the income tax from different angles. The key phrase that tells me this is "with their own money". Ron Paul says this because he rejects the theory that the State has a claim on people's income. Had he NOT said that phrase, I'd suggest you were right. Watch for that language should he use this in campaign speeches. If it's absent, you're worst suspicions are correct.

"OK, so I suppose technically a permanent tax credit isn’t “government funded”. It’s taxpayer funded. You know, by you, and me, and our children and grandchildren."

You're absolutely correct UNLESS...you reject the Sixteenth Amendment (like Ron Paul does)

A Libertarian proposing a permanent tax credit? It's GOT to be election season. So funny it's tragic.

Okay Jay, were you trying to be clever here? If so, fail.

When you pay taxes, who's money are you paying your taxes with? Your neighbors? Even if I get a full refund on the credit, are we now going to split hairs and figure out exactly who's tax dollars I was actually given? I mean common, lets be real here.

Further more, no one has a Zero Tax Liability in this country, unless you are illegal. Just because you don't have to pay more at the end of the year, you still pay taxes.

I think you really missed the overall point here Jay. Dr. Paul already knows the Govt. is deep in our pockets, and he has always fought to allow the people to keep as much of THEIR money as possible. Sometimes you have to actually play the game to get ahead, you know?

Saying that the credit should be completely removed, while I agree with you there, is no different than throwing a deck chair off the Titanic with regards to it's impact on the free market.

This is so unfortunate... Paul has some of the best ideas in Congress, one of the VERY few members that isn't lobbied extensively by the TBTF banks and corporations, hates corporatism running this country, understands the monster the Fed is, wants expanded freedom and liberties... And then he comes out with this.

I'm a big fan, but this was bad.

I would still take him over 99% of everybody else we have in there now.

WOW the stupidity is down right amazing. Doesn't he hear himself when he is talking? We need an intelligence test before you are allowed to run for office.

Sorry Jay.

Your TV and internet must have been broken while some of these quotes were spewed...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZSetmA6u2E http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Pd9v1fdF7Q http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xa9GN1ul50c

Amen Jay.

It's sad when somebody who supposedly "gets it," can't find his a$$ from a hole in the ground.

LOL, Oh Ron Paul. Without going into the myriad of reasons why the tax credit was never (and will never) be a permanent solution (I actually wrote an article on BP about it), this is the best political quote I have heard in quite a while. If the whole politics thing doesn't work out, perhaps he can teach logic-based semantics.

Hey man, Don't mess with Texas.

Politicians amaze me when they think of things like this. How that can be talked about as "their own money" is beyond me, as well.

Free markets don't necessarily mean "free stuff" for all. Right?

Thanks for sharing this little pearl of wisdom Jay...

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I think Ron Paul's problem is that he's such a purist that he says things without really thinking. Far from being calculated, I think he is so infatuated with his own crazy thought process that he will say almost anything regardless of the consequences. I don't know which statement was dumber, the permanent tax credit or his remarks advocating that corporations should be able to ignore civil rights laws.

do yourself a favour, don't vote to this guys again! and im totally agree with "Having said all that, I disagree with him, and I canu00e2u0080u0099t explain the natural disaster credit, which does carry the stench of rotting political pork. When you move into an area prone to natural disasters, and these are well documented by now, you must be prepared to shoulder those risks yourselves."

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Corey got it.

Dr. Paul was illustrating the fact that the money isnu00e2u0080u0099t the governmentu00e2u0080u0099s; itu00e2u0080u0099s the individual taxpayeru00e2u0080u0099s. Itu00e2u0080u0099s not a re-election trick. Itu00e2u0080u0099s Paulu00e2u0080u0099s way of trying to work within the system to slowly erode the income tax.

I think what Paul is doing is working within a broken system to allow markets to adjust naturally. IOW, a permanent first time home buyers tax credit will not create a short-lived feeding frenzy, like we just saw, but will create a business as usual atmosphere. His comment about using your own money makes sense when you look at it like that. People, thinking people that is, understand that taxes are our own money, but a quick tax credit is often presented as a govt tax credit. That kinda sounds like OPM, which is a stupid game that politicians play.

Having said all that, I disagree with him, and I can't explain the natural disaster credit, which does carry the stench of rotting political pork. When you move into an area prone to natural disasters, and these are well documented by now, you must be prepared to shoulder those risks yourselves.

"And Iu00e2u0080u0099ll bet you $10 that in some re-election stump speech he points out that he tried to permanently extend the home buyer tax credit"

You have to read Ron Paul to understand his motivations, Jay. He serially attacks the income tax from different angles. The key phrase that tells me this is "with their own money". Ron Paul says this because he rejects the theory that the State has a claim on people's income. Had he NOT said that phrase, I'd suggest you were right. Watch for that language should he use this in campaign speeches. If it's absent, you're worst suspicions are correct.

"OK, so I suppose technically a permanent tax credit isnu00e2u0080u0099t u00e2u0080u009cgovernment fundedu00e2u0080u009d. Itu00e2u0080u0099s taxpayer funded. You know, by you, and me, and our children and grandchildren."

You're absolutely correct UNLESS...you reject the Sixteenth Amendment (like Ron Paul does)

This politician could not be any dumber if you ask me!

A Libertarian proposing a permanent tax credit? It's GOT to be election season. So funny it's tragic.

Okay Jay, were you trying to be clever here? If so, fail.

When you pay taxes, who's money are you paying your taxes with? Your neighbors? Even if I get a full refund on the credit, are we now going to split hairs and figure out exactly who's tax dollars I was actually given? I mean common, lets be real here.

Further more, no one has a Zero Tax Liability in this country, unless you are illegal. Just because you don't have to pay more at the end of the year, you still pay taxes.

I think you really missed the overall point here Jay. Dr. Paul already knows the Govt. is deep in our pockets, and he has always fought to allow the people to keep as much of THEIR money as possible. Sometimes you have to actually play the game to get ahead, you know?

Saying that the credit should be completely removed, while I agree with you there, is no different than throwing a deck chair off the Titanic with regards to it's impact on the free market.

This is so unfortunate... Paul has some of the best ideas in Congress, one of the VERY few members that isn't lobbied extensively by the TBTF banks and corporations, hates corporatism running this country, understands the monster the Fed is, wants expanded freedom and liberties... And then he comes out with this.

I'm a big fan, but this was bad.

I would still take him over 99% of everybody else we have in there now.

WOW the stupidity is down right amazing. Doesn't he hear himself when he is talking? We need an intelligence test before you are allowed to run for office.

Sorry Jay.

Your TV and internet must have been broken while some of these quotes were spewed...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZSetmA6u2E http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Pd9v1fdF7Q http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xa9GN1ul50c

Amen Jay.

It's sad when somebody who supposedly "gets it," can't find his a$$ from a hole in the ground.

LOL, Oh Ron Paul. Without going into the myriad of reasons why the tax credit was never (and will never) be a permanent solution (I actually wrote an article on BP about it), this is the best political quote I have heard in quite a while. If the whole politics thing doesn't work out, perhaps he can teach logic-based semantics.

Hey man, Don't mess with Texas.

Politicians amaze me when they think of things like this. How that can be talked about as "their own money" is beyond me, as well.

Free markets don't necessarily mean "free stuff" for all. Right?

Thanks for sharing this little pearl of wisdom Jay...