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Getting my broker's license and opening my own brokerage was WELL worth it. But I don't think I learned a single thing it the actual broker's licensing class.
It took me 2 seconds to get it. : )So you say , Jay it is not worth the $550.00?
Ummm.... you've censored the "whole story".... :O
**Laguna Niguel Real Estate´s last blog post..Dana Point 2009 Doheny Blues Festival…</abbr></abbr>
You are one of the better ones Candace...
I'm sure you know some who do not read or write emails (their secretary does) or seldom surf the net to see what is happening out there.
**Richard Silver | Downtown Toronto Blog´s last blog post..Gary Vaynerchuk at Inman Connect NYC 2009</abbr></abbr>
[After you have worked as an active saleperson for a number of years you are more up-to-date than half of the Broker/Owners out there….
Don’t worry, they won’t read this as they are not on the Internet as yet.]
Some of us are! :)
One of my first brokers used to say:
"Do you have 30 years experience or one year experience repeated 30 times?"
It all depends on how well the salesperson was trained in the first place. New agents who came in to work for absentee brokers (the ones Richard is talking about), sleeping thru CE classes and spend their first 3 years narrowly avoiding complaints are hardly qualified to be brokers.
It is so true...that it is very sad.
After you have worked as an active saleperson for a number of years you are more up-to-date than half of the Broker/Owners out there....
Don't worry, they won't read this as they are not on the Internet as yet.
**Richard Silver | Downtown Toronto Blog´s last blog post..Gary Vaynerchuk at Inman Connect NYC 2009</abbr></abbr>
If it's a question about extensive training then I strongly oppose the notion. There are real estate companies that are offering extensive training to their employees for better customer dealings and enhancement in client relationship. This is what you need in a real estate arena for good market response.
When I was searching for real estate agents to assist in my purchase of a flat, I had a hard time. There are so many brokers in every neighbourhood, but it was so hard to reach to them.
Finally, I got the list through Internet and chose my dealer. You can view similar list at
http://www.clickindia.com/real-estate/real-estate-...
Why am I not surprised. Even if you did learn something, I'm sure it doesn't apply to the real world.
Sadly, that's the funniest post I've read in awhile!
OK so AZ broker classes are as useful as the typical class for CE credit? At least you can get some zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz's!
kk
LOL Jay . . . when I first saw this post somehow I knew it would be blank! :)
I guess I was lucky. I got really good 'new' broker education when I took my hours a few years back. The daughter of a former Commissioner was the teacher and her dad, the BIC at the next door office, sat in on our class every day, answering questions. There were only 5 of us and it was the teacher's first time teaching the broker class.
Once we got to the '27 hours' portion and other salespeople were in class, it was all pretty routine.
"Have you had, by chance, that one teacher who is so full of it you want to strangle him?"
Not yet John, but thanks for the warning...
I got my brokers license last winter. Was most disappointed in the classes. Silly me I thought I would learn something new.
Now that's funny! It's really a shame too. As you mentioned, having Broker beside your name is probably the most worthwhile effort for a designation you can make. However, I think all of us that have done it would say you learn less achieving broker than working toward any other designation.
Have you had, by chance, that one teacher who is so full of it you want to strangle him?
Don't miss the 2 review classes at the end. Great teacher. You could probably just take them and easily pass the test.
Brilliant! Hope you have your laptop and some wifi with you at these classes so you can actually get some work done!
Lol! Hopefully there are no points for attitude. I see you're not bucking for the teacher's pet position. :)
Ok, this one took me a second. I saw it late last night but didn't get it. Today I saw you in MyBlogLog and followed you back here. Saw your post again, and now the humor hit me. Nice!
I guess that's what I get for reading blogs at 2am!
...jp
Kelley - I'm 30 hours through the 90 hours of classes. So far, it's all been a repeat of pre-licensing classes -- almost word for word from what I remember.
The networking with other attendees has been the best part.
I think it's a worthwhile endeavor though. It can't hurt to have "Broker" (or Associate Broker) by your name. More valuable in the consumers eyes, IMHO, then any designation available.
And of course if you REALLY want to work for yourself, it's a must have.
I keep thinking about getting a Broker license, but I'm told it's the Salesperson class, all over again. True?
I'm with April - ROFL!!!!
OMG!! You got me...after a hang up I had with my blog yesterday, I thought yours was messing up too!
Now...I am laughing out loud and particularly glad I am working from home today because I am sure I look ridiculous!!
Here's the other end of it. I believe that out of the 80 questions on the Broker version of the Arizona State licensing test, only one was targeted to that test. All the rest were questions that seemed to me to have come from the Salesperson's test.
I once had to explain a pre-printed provision regarding clear title in a standard contract to a "broker". Her response was "I don't think I've ever even read that before."
Enough said.
Weird. I had the exact same teacher when I got my licence here in Ontario
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
I refuse to believe there isn't extensive training, especially given the consistently superior experiences I've had when dealing directly with agent/brokers on transactions.
(cough)
Getting my broker's license and opening my own brokerage was WELL worth it. But I don't think I learned a single thing it the actual broker's licensing class.
It took me 2 seconds to get it. : )So you say , Jay it is not worth the $550.00?
It took me few seconds to get it :)So you say it is not worth the $550.00?
Ummm.... you've censored the "whole story".... :O
**Laguna Niguel Real Estateu00c2u00b4s last blog post..Dana Point 2009 Doheny Blues Festivalu00e2u0080u00a6</abbr></abbr>
You are one of the better ones Candace...
I'm sure you know some who do not read or write emails (their secretary does) or seldom surf the net to see what is happening out there.
**Richard Silver | Downtown Toronto Blogu00c2u00b4s last blog post..Gary Vaynerchuk at Inman Connect NYC 2009</abbr></abbr>
[After you have worked as an active saleperson for a number of years you are more up-to-date than half of the Broker/Owners out thereu00e2u0080u00a6.
Donu00e2u0080u0099t worry, they wonu00e2u0080u0099t read this as they are not on the Internet as yet.]
Some of us are! :)
One of my first brokers used to say:
"Do you have 30 years experience or one year experience repeated 30 times?"
It all depends on how well the salesperson was trained in the first place. New agents who came in to work for absentee brokers (the ones Richard is talking about), sleeping thru CE classes and spend their first 3 years narrowly avoiding complaints are hardly qualified to be brokers.
It is so true...that it is very sad.
After you have worked as an active saleperson for a number of years you are more up-to-date than half of the Broker/Owners out there....
Don't worry, they won't read this as they are not on the Internet as yet.
**Richard Silver | Downtown Toronto Blogu00c2u00b4s last blog post..Gary Vaynerchuk at Inman Connect NYC 2009</abbr></abbr>
If it's a question about extensive training then I strongly oppose the notion. There are real estate companies that are offering extensive training to their employees for better customer dealings and enhancement in client relationship. This is what you need in a real estate arena for good market response.
Great post thanks for the laugh.
Here in North Carolina, we have 60 hours of pre-licensing, and 3 30-hour broker classes. after that and two years of experience we can take the Broker in Charge class and start our own business. We learned more in our broker classes than we did pre-licensing. One section on contracts, a second on measuring houses and commercial real estate (selected broker topics) and I am not sure what the third class was on.
When I was searching for real estate agents to assist in my purchase of a flat, I had a hard time. There are so many brokers in every neighbourhood, but it was so hard to reach to them.
Finally, I got the list through Internet and chose my dealer. You can view similar list at
http://www.clickindia.com/real-estate/real-estate-...
Why am I not surprised. Even if you did learn something, I'm sure it doesn't apply to the real world.
Sadly, that's the funniest post I've read in awhile!
Hee hee...
Wiping the coffee off my screen. Thanks for the laugh Jay.
OK so AZ broker classes are as useful as the typical class for CE credit? At least you can get some zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz's!
kk
I am so blissfully optimistic that I always go into these kinds of things thinking that I am going to learn something great. I hoped the same for you.
LOL Jay . . . when I first saw this post somehow I knew it would be blank! :)
I guess I was lucky. I got really good 'new' broker education when I took my hours a few years back. The daughter of a former Commissioner was the teacher and her dad, the BIC at the next door office, sat in on our class every day, answering questions. There were only 5 of us and it was the teacher's first time teaching the broker class.
Once we got to the '27 hours' portion and other salespeople were in class, it was all pretty routine.
"Have you had, by chance, that one teacher who is so full of it you want to strangle him?"
Not yet John, but thanks for the warning...
I got my brokers license last winter. Was most disappointed in the classes. Silly me I thought I would learn something new.
Now that's funny! It's really a shame too. As you mentioned, having Broker beside your name is probably the most worthwhile effort for a designation you can make. However, I think all of us that have done it would say you learn less achieving broker than working toward any other designation.
Have you had, by chance, that one teacher who is so full of it you want to strangle him?
Don't miss the 2 review classes at the end. Great teacher. You could probably just take them and easily pass the test.
Brilliant! Hope you have your laptop and some wifi with you at these classes so you can actually get some work done!
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